Is there a document listing all the targets/lists (and other types) that are exported in the CSV export file?

It would be easier than discovering them all by inspection if there was. Basically, what all the possible field values are.

  • When you go to do the export it shows you the things you can include/exclude.

    If thats not the question you are asking, then the columns in the export are as follows

    LEVELS:
    TARGET_TYPE TARGET_TYPE_AS_TEXT TARGET_LIST_NUMBER TARGET_ID TARGET_PART_NUMBER CHANNEL PARAMETER_TYPE PARAMETER_TYPE_AS_TEXT LEVEL LEVEL_REFERENCE_TYPE LEVEL_REFERENCE_TYPE_AS_TEXT LEVEL_REFERENCE_LIST_NUMBER LEVEL_REFERENCE_ID FADE_TIME DELAY_TIME MARK_CUE

    TARGETS:
    TARGET_TYPE TARGET_TYPE_AS_TEXT TARGET_LIST_NUMBER TARGET_ID PART_NUMBER LABEL TIME_DATA UP_DELAY DOWN_TIME DOWN_DELAY FOCUS_TIME FOCUS_DELAY COLOR_TIME COLOR_DELAY BEAM_TIME BEAM_DELAY DURATION MARK BLOCK ASSERT ALL_FADE PREHEAT FOLLOW LINK LOOP CURVE RATE EXTERNAL_LINKS EFFECTS

    CHANNELS:
    CHANNEL FIXTURE_TYPE ADDRESS LABEL PROPORTION CURVE

    FIXTURES:
    FIXTURE_TYPE_NAME FIXTURE_TYPE_MANUFACTURER PARAMETER_TYPE PARAMETER_TYPE_TEXT_SHORT PARAMETER_TYPE_TEXT_LONG PARAMETER_ADDRESS_OFFSET PARAMETER_CATEGORY PARAMETER_CATEGORY_AS_TEXT

    SHOWCONTROL:
    TARGET_TYPE TARGET_TYPE_AS_TEXT TARGET_LIST_NUMBER TARGET_ID PART_NUMBER LABEL TIME_ADDRESS DATE TRIGGER ACTION


    If you give us a clue as to what you are trying to achieve we may be able to be more specific.
  • Thanks - I'd got that far. It's not the column headers I'm trying to match up, it's the mapping between, for example, 1=Cue, 2=Sub in the target_type column, or the numerical equivalents of things like Gobo_Wheel, Red, Green and so on in the paramter_type column. I've got a lot of the values already by manually inspecting the CSV file but I have gaps because I haven't built a show which exports every possible value (yet).

    I'm writing some code to parse and analyse the CSV file, and I'd prefer to know in advance what values allowable in each column are, and it's usually preferable (faster) to parse on numerical values rather than text strings.

    Thanks for replying.
  • Ok understand what you are trying to do.

    You may be a bit stuck if you want to just use the numeric value of the type as 3 is Pallet and is all 4 pallets, with the text column saying which one (column 3 does seem to have a numeric for the target list number so you might be able to use that).

    Probably your best bet is to do what you are doing and just manually inspect the file, which is reasonably easy in excel if you add a filter.

    I'm not sure I would worry about the overhead of doing a string compare than a convert to number from the number text and then a numeric compare. Your code will be easier to change in a years time if it just has the obvious strings in it as well :)
  • As I have it from my analysis of my export file, I may as well post it here in case its useful

    TARGET_TYPE TARGET_TYPE_AS_TEXT
    1 Cue
    3 Intensity_Palette (and other palettes)
    2 Sub
    4 Preset
    5 Group
    10 Effect
    13 Macro
    34 Snapshot
    36 Curve
    40 Partition
    41 Magic_Sheet
    54 Color_Path
  • Years of using databases where you store indexes rather than replicating strings everywhere :-)

    I'm using enumerations, at least they are readable.
  • Thanks, I think I'd got most of those. I've also deciphered how to tell the difference between palettes (it's another column, unsurprisingly beam, focus, intensity and colour have different indicators) and I've got most of the parameter types, but I'm missing a few - for example I have Cyan = 9, red = 12, green=13, blue = 14 but I haven't worked out yet which way yellow and magenta fit between cyan and red. I just wondered if there was a canonical reference somewhere. Clearly it exists in the source code for the console, I was hoping it was also available as a PDF for those who want to decipher the output.

    Hey-ho, I'll just keep creating targets and exporting them and seeing what turns up. Thanks for your help.
  • that's what i have: (tab separated columns: No, Name, Category)

    1 Intens Intensity
    2 Pan Focus
    3 Tilt Focus
    7 Hue Color
    8 Saturation Color
    9 Cyan Color
    10 Magenta Color
    11 Yellow Color
    12 Red Color
    13 Green Color
    14 Blue Color
    17 Cooling_Fan Color
    19 _Enable Form
    48 Amber Color
    51 White Color
    61 CTO Color
    73 Iris Form
    76 Diffusion Form
    78 Edge Form
    79 Zoom Form
    89 In_Point Image
    90 Out_Point Image
    91 Playback_Speed Image
    95 Z_Rotate Shutter
    96 Scale_X Shutter
    97 Scale_Y Shutter
    100 Keystone_X1 Shutter
    101 Keystone_Y1 Shutter
    102 Keystone_X2 Shutter
    103 Keystone_Y2 Shutter
    104 Keystone_X3 Shutter
    105 Keystone_Y3 Shutter
    106 Keystone_X4 Shutter
    107 Keystone_Y4 Shutter
    110 Play_Mode Image
    131 Fixture_Global_Reset Control
    192 Intens_2 Intensity
    199 Color_Select Color
    200 Gobo_Select Image
    201 Beam_Fx_Select Image
    203 Position_MSpeed Focus
    204 Shutter_Strobe Form
    206 Gobo_Index/Speed Image
    207 _Lamp_Control Control
    211 Frame_Angle_A Shutter
    212 Frame_Thrust_A Shutter
    213 Frame_Angle_B Shutter
    214 Frame_Thrust_B Shutter
    215 Frame_Angle_C Shutter
    216 Frame_Thrust_C Shutter
    217 Frame_Angle_D Shutter
    218 Frame_Thrust_D Shutter
    219 Gobo_Select_2 Image
    220 Frame_Assembly Shutter
    221 Gobo_Index/Speed_2 Image
    222 Color_Select_2 Color
    229 Gobo_Select_3 Image
    230 Animation_Select Image
    233 Animation_Index/Speed Image
    234 Beam_Fx_Index/Speed Image
    235 Diffusion_2 Form
    240 Frame_a_1 Shutter
    241 Frame_b_1 Shutter
    242 Frame_a_3 Shutter
    243 Frame_b_3 Shutter
    244 Frame_a_4 Shutter
    245 Frame_b_4 Shutter
    246 Frame_a_2 Shutter
    247 Frame_b_2 Shutter
    263 Barndoor_3 Shutter
    264 Barndoor_4 Shutter
    265 Barndoors_Assembly Shutter
    301 Output_Preset Form
    316 Color_Mix_MSpeed Color
    361 Library Image
    362 File Image
    384 Red_2 Color
    385 Green_2 Color
    386 Blue_2 Color
    671 Color_Mix_2 Color
    672 Shutter_Strobe_2 Form
    809 Haze Form
    1006 X_Rotate Shutter
    1007 Y_Rotate Shutter
    1010 Viewpoint_Mode Form
    1088 Fx1_Select Form
    1415 Fog Form
    1719 Color_Temperature Color
    1775 _Scale Shutter
    1783 Aspect_Ratio Shutter
    1871 Blower Form
    1875 Position_Optimisation_Mode Control
    1970 Contrast Color
    1972 Fx_Para_1 Form
    2067 Effect_Macros Image
    2075 Fx_Para_2 Form
    2439 Fixture_Sleep Control
    2742 Trails_Duration Form
    2743 Image_Movement_Speed Form
    2828 _Color_Effect Color
    2864 Control_1 Form
    2865 Control_2 Form
    3215 Color_MSpeed Color
    3222 Beam_MSpeed Form
    3462 _Cue Form
    3562 Intens_1 Intensity
    4400 Page Form
    8561 Edge_2 Form
    8976 Proj_Mode Form
    8998 Gobo_Wheel_Select_MSpeed_2 Image
    9710 Effect_Macro_Rate Image
    9736 Proj_Shutter Form
    11112 Controller Form
    11876 Effect_Macros_2 Image
    11886 Color_Mix_Position Color
    12080 Flame Form
    13205 Effect_Macro_Rate_2 Image
    13207 Effect_Macros_3 Image
    13799 Fixture_Enable Control
    13912 Color_Effect_Parameter_4 Color
    13913 Color_Effect_Parameter_5 Color
    13914 Color_Effect_Parameter_6 Color
    13915 Color_Effect_Parameter_7 Color
    13916 Color_Effect_Parameter_8 Color
    13917 Color_Effect_Parameter_9 Color
    13918 Color_Effect_Parameter_10 Color
    13919 Color_Effect_Parameter_11 Color
    13920 Color_Effect_Parameter_12 Color
    13921 Color_Effect_Parameter_13 Color
    13922 Color_Effect_Parameter_14 Color
    13923 Color_Effect_Parameter_15 Color
    13924 Color_Effect_Parameter_16 Color
    13925 Color_Effect_Parameter_17 Color
    13926 Color_Effect_Parameter_18 Color
    13927 Color_Effect_Parameter_19 Color
    13928 Color_Effect_Parameter_20 Color
    14491 Heat Form
    17721 CO2 Form
    23808 Wheel_Mode Form
  • Excellent - thanks Ueli.

    Maybe I should have asked on Facebook ;-)

    Thanks again, that will help a great deal. Do you have a similar list for the targets (1=Cue, 2 =Sub etc)?
  • no. i mess around with ascii more often than with csv, and there the targets are not numbered but use text...
    actually also the parameter list if from ascii ;)
  • Hey Alister,

    i don't now, if you ever will get all numbers?
    I think new devices will bring new parameters and new numbers.

    You can't check the category? That's ever the same. Focus, Image, Shutter, Form and Color.

    It's really so much faster to read hundreds of numbers (if you know they) instead of 5 strings, that will ever be the same?


    I don't now your idea, but maybe it's a thought that helps.

    greetings

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