[Help] Merging Only Time Parameters

I noticed this a while ago, but forgot to post on it. I'm not sure if it's operator error, or something else. Either way it would help if someone could check this and report back.

I am unable to merge or update only time parameters into existing cues via the programmer only. If I use the existing cue editor in "Edit" mode, then I am able to update time changes.

Here is a reproduction...

1. Patch a test show with 10 movers

2. Grab all 10 and set I,P,C and B in the programmer and record to 1/1

3. In the programmer only... change only the Fade and Delay times to something else and try to merge to 1/1.

4. Clear the programmer and then check the timing for 1/1. The time values did not change.

5. Try the same process with the Update function and it won't update either.

6. Now... Clear the programmer and "View Cue" 1/1. Enter edit mode in the Cue Editor. Select 1 thru 10... and change the time values via the syntax or by manually editing the fields in the editor. Now exit the edit mode of the cue editor and allow it to update.

7. Check the cue contents and you will see that the time values have been updated succsesfully.

I have noticed that the only way to change time in an existing Cue is to update via the cue editor or just record the entire cue over the previous cue.

Could someone kindly check this and let me know if I might be doing something wrong?

Thanks

JB
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  • I agree it would be nice to be able to record only timing from programmer and I kind of don't understand why it cannot be that way.

    But to my understanding the reason is that time is bound to parameter value... that's why you cannot have pure timing palettes.

    The default of NOT to USE T is good... it would really mess up things if default timing would be recorded when just updating values (like we are doing most of the time)

    So Jeff if you want to update times, just grab the values too and USE TIME.

    But while I was checking this I noticed there seems to be a bug in Merge.

    The mask shows timing is recorded but that is not happening (when no masks is highlighted, everything is recorded)
    If you choose IPCBET and Merge. Timing is recorded.

    Things are quite strange if you use Record with merge option. The mask of record is shown. Timing is recorded if you just record, insert or replace, but when merge is used no timing is recorded unless you select the masks (IPCBET)
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  • I agree it would be nice to be able to record only timing from programmer and I kind of don't understand why it cannot be that way.

    But to my understanding the reason is that time is bound to parameter value... that's why you cannot have pure timing palettes.

    The default of NOT to USE T is good... it would really mess up things if default timing would be recorded when just updating values (like we are doing most of the time)

    So Jeff if you want to update times, just grab the values too and USE TIME.

    But while I was checking this I noticed there seems to be a bug in Merge.

    The mask shows timing is recorded but that is not happening (when no masks is highlighted, everything is recorded)
    If you choose IPCBET and Merge. Timing is recorded.

    Things are quite strange if you use Record with merge option. The mask of record is shown. Timing is recorded if you just record, insert or replace, but when merge is used no timing is recorded unless you select the masks (IPCBET)
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