Nasty freeze of internal DP8k and desktop

After issues like this last week and the weeks prior I have created a new show file on two occasions and imported what I need via show merge. Same issues persist. This has repeated on Hog4, two separate road hog 4's, and today for the first time hogpc. Here is today's example.

- I turn on the Road Hog4. 2.7.0. There is no external DP.
- I turn on Hog4pc to run not as a server and connect to show over network
- I try to run a cue from a cue stack and the stack still shows ... with the cue I tried to run under it.
- P-O-Back reveals the DP8k has stopped responding.
- I restart the DP8k process.

- I make a couple of changes in the programmer. Then merge into cue. Then desktop becomes completely unresponsive.

P-O-Backspace shows nothing abnormal. I restart Desktop. Everything is functioning properly. But the two fixtures I had in the programmer prior to the desktop restart are in a phantom programmer still. I select those fixtures at their values, then knock them out, and all is fine again.

This has happened twice today, twice yesterday, and sporadically in the past few weeks.

Any ideas? I don't see anything strange in the log, not that I'm an expert in debugging.
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  • I've seen this phantom editor many times recently. Most recently with 2.7.0.

    It initiates randomly, sometimes after opening a cue to edit, sometimes just after grbbing a bunch of fixtures in the programmer.

    I'll update or record into a cue. Clear.
    Programmer is empty. Close every window. Output shows the previous fixtures with their previous programmer values. Click "Source" and fixtures show their source is "editor".
    Every Cuelist window is closed, Desktop is empty, programmer is empty. Hit Clear
    Playing cues won't clear them.
    Only way to clear the fixture is to reselect them, touch all the frozen parameters, then 'clear'.

    I also start a new show and then merge in my template palettes, views, groups, Kinds and think it has to do with merging. I'm going to test this weekend with a New Show from scratch and not merge anything.
    Also, I believe I've only noticed it on shows with an external DP8K.

    By the way, this is a new template file that I created in Hog 4 OS (early version). I was seeing lots of peculiarities with my Hog 3 template that I converted to Hog 4 in the early OS versions when we could do that, so I recreated with Hog 4OS.

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  • I've seen this phantom editor many times recently. Most recently with 2.7.0.

    It initiates randomly, sometimes after opening a cue to edit, sometimes just after grbbing a bunch of fixtures in the programmer.

    I'll update or record into a cue. Clear.
    Programmer is empty. Close every window. Output shows the previous fixtures with their previous programmer values. Click "Source" and fixtures show their source is "editor".
    Every Cuelist window is closed, Desktop is empty, programmer is empty. Hit Clear
    Playing cues won't clear them.
    Only way to clear the fixture is to reselect them, touch all the frozen parameters, then 'clear'.

    I also start a new show and then merge in my template palettes, views, groups, Kinds and think it has to do with merging. I'm going to test this weekend with a New Show from scratch and not merge anything.
    Also, I believe I've only noticed it on shows with an external DP8K.

    By the way, this is a new template file that I created in Hog 4 OS (early version). I was seeing lots of peculiarities with my Hog 3 template that I converted to Hog 4 in the early OS versions when we could do that, so I recreated with Hog 4OS.

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