Touring and Change Fixture Type questions

Hi all,

I'm wondering if someone could help me shed some light on a few things (Pardon the pun). I feel like it's not discussed anywhere or at least anywhere I can find! Would some of you mind sharing how you deal with touring with shows into different house rigs and merging those rigs into your already programmed shows? I have a few unanswered questions such as:

Do you have to recreate your groups everytime you move into a new venue?

If you have a rig that has more of one type of fixture than the day before, Which fixtures do you copy?

Do you have to recreate all your effects if you have something specific like a dim chase that goes from the middle of a truss outwards?

If someone could just talk me through how they go about getting on with a hog when they are touring into different venues/festivals with different rigs it would help me greatly!

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  • Hi,
    I'll try to answer.
    Do you have to recreate your groups every-time you move into a new venue?
    No if you program a show and you use spot/was/beam fixtures then any groups that you have will have changed type. So if you started with fixtures 101-110 (Robe spots for example) and you change type to Martin Vipers they become 101-110.

    If you have a rig that has more of one type of fixture than the day before, Which fixtures do you copy?
    I try to copy spot fixtures to spots/wash to wash/beam to beam/LED to LED and so on.
    I try to use as many fixtures from my original show programming as possible.

    Do you have to recreate all your effects if you have something specific like a dim chase that goes from the middle of a truss outwards?
    No, If you change type and you have the same amount of fixtures you shouldn't have to alter the effects.
    That said fixtures have certain characteristics. Shutters/Colours/Gobos differ from fixture to fixture so effects can look different and may need to be edited.

    When I start a show I know I am going to have to change type on I try to keep that in mind from the off.
    A good habit is to try and name your fixtures in a way that makes sense to you so no matter how many fixtures you are using you are always changing type to the correct fixture.
    For example.
    Spots 101>110 would always be the most upstage spot fixtures in a rig from stage right to stage left.
    Wash 2001-2016 would always be the most downstage wash fixtures running from stage right to stage left.
    So if you arrive in a venue which only has 8 spot fixtures you might change type 102>109 and ignore the end fixtures 101+ 110 depending on how you programmed the original show.

    Always use palettes to program the show. Editing and updating palettes is a much easier way to keep a show intact rather than having to go through every cue and try to figure out where or what you did yesterday,

    Have a master show that you start with and can go back to if everything gets a bit much and you decide you want to go back to a show you know works.

    Try to keep in mind when programming the original or master show what will happen if in a few days you have a
    show with completely different fixtures.
    Sometimes its more desirable to have a show that clones/changes type perfectly with less information and complexity that a very complicated show that doesn't clone/change type at all.

    C


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  • Hi,
    I'll try to answer.
    Do you have to recreate your groups every-time you move into a new venue?
    No if you program a show and you use spot/was/beam fixtures then any groups that you have will have changed type. So if you started with fixtures 101-110 (Robe spots for example) and you change type to Martin Vipers they become 101-110.

    If you have a rig that has more of one type of fixture than the day before, Which fixtures do you copy?
    I try to copy spot fixtures to spots/wash to wash/beam to beam/LED to LED and so on.
    I try to use as many fixtures from my original show programming as possible.

    Do you have to recreate all your effects if you have something specific like a dim chase that goes from the middle of a truss outwards?
    No, If you change type and you have the same amount of fixtures you shouldn't have to alter the effects.
    That said fixtures have certain characteristics. Shutters/Colours/Gobos differ from fixture to fixture so effects can look different and may need to be edited.

    When I start a show I know I am going to have to change type on I try to keep that in mind from the off.
    A good habit is to try and name your fixtures in a way that makes sense to you so no matter how many fixtures you are using you are always changing type to the correct fixture.
    For example.
    Spots 101>110 would always be the most upstage spot fixtures in a rig from stage right to stage left.
    Wash 2001-2016 would always be the most downstage wash fixtures running from stage right to stage left.
    So if you arrive in a venue which only has 8 spot fixtures you might change type 102>109 and ignore the end fixtures 101+ 110 depending on how you programmed the original show.

    Always use palettes to program the show. Editing and updating palettes is a much easier way to keep a show intact rather than having to go through every cue and try to figure out where or what you did yesterday,

    Have a master show that you start with and can go back to if everything gets a bit much and you decide you want to go back to a show you know works.

    Try to keep in mind when programming the original or master show what will happen if in a few days you have a
    show with completely different fixtures.
    Sometimes its more desirable to have a show that clones/changes type perfectly with less information and complexity that a very complicated show that doesn't clone/change type at all.

    C


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