Midi Control with midi controller on different pages.

Can anyone help me figure out how to control only the second page of cues on a Road Hog 4 via midi? I can already control the cuelist via midi notes control. However when I flip pages I want only the midi controller to control the console. Or if I could stay on page one and let page two be in the background. I basically need more physical buttons/Faders/etc. I am very limited by the 10 faders that the console has. I am not able to buy a wing wing with the budget so I am trying to do it in a more affordable way. On the Hog manual the Midi notes only go fro 0-10 for the playback bar. Are there different midi notes for page two that only control page two/3/etc? Help on this would be much appreciated. I am also open to other options that allow me more physical buttons.
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  • Copy that…just wanted to get an idea of what all you were trying to do.

    There are a few things I would suggest…

    Use the console screen wisely. You have a TON of space. Some of this setup will take some time and playing with to make sure you have everything working smoothly. Organization is KEY.

    Setup a view of the cuelist directory (sometimes I use the "copy" and split the screen), a row of macro buttons at the top (or two if you have a lot of them)
    Depending on your fingers, choose small, medium, or large icons. I use a combination of medium and large. I have one cuelist directory window with "large" buttons for things I want to hit without missing. I have another window (sometimes more) of medium buttons and broken up. My macro buttons are all medium.

    Console preferences:
    Under MISC - Faders should be "LEAVE IN BACKGROUND"

    For the cuelist:
    Depending if they are multiple cues in the list or single cues that you're triggering makes a difference. If they are single cues, set the options to include "Add release end cue" - this will enable you to push the button once to trigger it and a second time to release it.

    For layout..here is basically what I have:
    Top Row:
    Macros - Medium Buttons - Full Width - These are my direct selects for pages.
    Cuelist Directory - (this is the organization part)
    This is broken up in Quadrants
    Effects / Colors
    Beams / Chases
    Bottom row Positions (LARGE buttons)

    When laid out this way, you have access to a large group of things to mix and match and play live.

    Now since you are on a RH4 and not a FB or Full Size, you don't have the motorized faders. This isn't a problem, but you need to be aware of this limitation when switching pages as you'll have to match levels to take control.

    This is just an example of some things of how I setup my pages…

    Page 1 - Fixture Intensities - This can be broken up however you want to break up the 10 faders (odds, evens, spots, washes, ds, us) whatever…
    Page 2 - Any "Special" faders you want - fly out to house in IPCB Faders, etc…
    Page 3 - Tap Sync Chases for sync
    Keep adding as needed…

    Make your macro row to go to "PAGE x ENTER" to make page changes not in order. Label the macros as "Intensity" "Special" "Chases" etc….

    This will help you bounce back and forth QUICKLY and really utilize the 10 faders as best as possible.

    Does this help? Make sense?
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  • Copy that…just wanted to get an idea of what all you were trying to do.

    There are a few things I would suggest…

    Use the console screen wisely. You have a TON of space. Some of this setup will take some time and playing with to make sure you have everything working smoothly. Organization is KEY.

    Setup a view of the cuelist directory (sometimes I use the "copy" and split the screen), a row of macro buttons at the top (or two if you have a lot of them)
    Depending on your fingers, choose small, medium, or large icons. I use a combination of medium and large. I have one cuelist directory window with "large" buttons for things I want to hit without missing. I have another window (sometimes more) of medium buttons and broken up. My macro buttons are all medium.

    Console preferences:
    Under MISC - Faders should be "LEAVE IN BACKGROUND"

    For the cuelist:
    Depending if they are multiple cues in the list or single cues that you're triggering makes a difference. If they are single cues, set the options to include "Add release end cue" - this will enable you to push the button once to trigger it and a second time to release it.

    For layout..here is basically what I have:
    Top Row:
    Macros - Medium Buttons - Full Width - These are my direct selects for pages.
    Cuelist Directory - (this is the organization part)
    This is broken up in Quadrants
    Effects / Colors
    Beams / Chases
    Bottom row Positions (LARGE buttons)

    When laid out this way, you have access to a large group of things to mix and match and play live.

    Now since you are on a RH4 and not a FB or Full Size, you don't have the motorized faders. This isn't a problem, but you need to be aware of this limitation when switching pages as you'll have to match levels to take control.

    This is just an example of some things of how I setup my pages…

    Page 1 - Fixture Intensities - This can be broken up however you want to break up the 10 faders (odds, evens, spots, washes, ds, us) whatever…
    Page 2 - Any "Special" faders you want - fly out to house in IPCB Faders, etc…
    Page 3 - Tap Sync Chases for sync
    Keep adding as needed…

    Make your macro row to go to "PAGE x ENTER" to make page changes not in order. Label the macros as "Intensity" "Special" "Chases" etc….

    This will help you bounce back and forth QUICKLY and really utilize the 10 faders as best as possible.

    Does this help? Make sense?
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