Bug with Time Only Palettes

Hello,

I'm running into an issue with time only palettes that wasn't there before. I'll try to explain.

In my busking show file I make use of time only palettes so I'm able to change timing in several cue's and scenes at once for all different paramaters.

For example:
- Colour Palette 5 is time only 0 seconds;
- Colour Palette 5 is time only 2 seconds;
- Colour Palette 10 is the palette I use to program cue's and scenes;
- If I like to make all my colour bumb-lists to have a time of 0s, I will copy/replace Col Palette 5 to Col Palette 10.
- If I like to make all my colour bumb-lists to have a time of 2s, I will copy/replace Col Palette 6 to Col Palette 10.

This was working fine before the pandemic, not sure what version of Hog 4 OS I was using back then. Now I'm updating my show file in Hog OS v3.17.0 and I'm running into a problem.

There is a problem with the timing executed in a cue and the timing showed in the cue/palette itself. So there is a difference how HOG 4 OS is executing the fade time of a cue and the fade time showed in the cue-editor.
When I replace the palette used in the cue (Col Pal 10), the fade-IN time is changed correctly when replacing the palette used in the cue, but the fade-OUT time is NOT changed at all. Which is weird because in the time only palette the fade-in and fade-out time is the same (e.g. both 0 seconds or both 2 seconds in the example).
The fade-out actual used to go from cue to cue is the time that was in color Palette 10 when recording the original cue. 
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  • Hello,



    Did some more testing. I made a new show file from scratch. Some fixtures, some groups and some colour palettes. The issue is not only with colour palette timing, also with all other paramaters.



    I ran into another issue with time only palettes that makes it all more weird and strange.

    As stated before, when I replace the ‘Bumb Time’ palette with another one, the fade-in time is changed correctly but the fade-out time is not affected, it stays like it was when the cue/list was recorded at the first place.



    I wanted to check if the same problem occurs when editing the ‘Bumb Time’ palette in the programmer. For this test I had to record the timing fixture based in stead of global, otherwise it wasn’t possible to edit the palette in an editor.



    Now the fun part:

    - When recording the cue; time in the palette was 1s;

    - I replace the palette with a timing of 2s. Result: Fade-In time of the cue is 2s, fade-out time is 1s.

    - When editing the palette (open colour palette 10), then set the timing to 0s, the result: fade-in time 0s, fade-out time gets 2s;

    - Another edit of the palette, set the timing to 4s. the result: fade-in time 4s, fade-out time becomes 0s;



    So when editing the time only palette in the editor, the newly entered time will be used as the fade-in time, but the fade-out time wil become the time set in the edit one step back. That's weird right?



    Regards, Maarten
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  • Hello,



    Did some more testing. I made a new show file from scratch. Some fixtures, some groups and some colour palettes. The issue is not only with colour palette timing, also with all other paramaters.



    I ran into another issue with time only palettes that makes it all more weird and strange.

    As stated before, when I replace the ‘Bumb Time’ palette with another one, the fade-in time is changed correctly but the fade-out time is not affected, it stays like it was when the cue/list was recorded at the first place.



    I wanted to check if the same problem occurs when editing the ‘Bumb Time’ palette in the programmer. For this test I had to record the timing fixture based in stead of global, otherwise it wasn’t possible to edit the palette in an editor.



    Now the fun part:

    - When recording the cue; time in the palette was 1s;

    - I replace the palette with a timing of 2s. Result: Fade-In time of the cue is 2s, fade-out time is 1s.

    - When editing the palette (open colour palette 10), then set the timing to 0s, the result: fade-in time 0s, fade-out time gets 2s;

    - Another edit of the palette, set the timing to 4s. the result: fade-in time 4s, fade-out time becomes 0s;



    So when editing the time only palette in the editor, the newly entered time will be used as the fade-in time, but the fade-out time wil become the time set in the edit one step back. That's weird right?



    Regards, Maarten
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