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use of Compound fixtures like Robe spiider

Hello,

I have a question about compound fixtures like the Robe Spiider or the JB Sparx 10.

How can I use the pre-programmed patterns of the fixtures?

When I have selected the fixture I can select a pattern from the selection. But how can I trigger this?

The sub-intensities and macro-intensities have no effect. I can only use the backgroung dimmer and it dims all the LEDs at the same time.

I tried it with:
Robe Spiider in Mode 6
and the
JB light spark 10 in mode 1.

Am I forgetting something? and are there instructions somewhere on how to use multicell fixtures?

THX
  • 0

    Hello,

    Section 5.4 of the help manual is all about compound fixtures. To select parts of fixtures you have to use dotted notation so for example 1.2 would be the "flower" part of the Robin SPIIDER m6. Selecting 1 selects the whole fixture and all of its parts. Hope this helps!

  • 0 in reply to Gabbi

    Hello, Thanks for yor ansert. Yes, I know that. This works great with fixtures like the Astera Titantube or the Shapeshifter. But the Spiider has predefined patterns which are not reached directly via the dotted numbers but via the selection.

    When the whole fixture is selected, there is the selection option "Macro" directly above the encoder, 
    where all pre-installed patterns can be selected. But I haven't figured out how to control this.

     

  • 0 in reply to jan m

    Based on the DMX chart I found for the Spiider, the Spiider m6 to Hog channel names are as follows (channel names found by looking at the components in the Fixture Builder):

    1. Pan coarse > Pan
    2. Pan fine > (attached to Pan)
    3. Tilt coarse > Tilt
    4. Tilt fine > attached to Tilt)
    5. Pan/Tilt speed, Pan/Tilt time > Position Time
    6. Power/Special functions > Fixture Control (you will find these controls under the Control Mode, Enable and Control slot toolbar buttons, or in an editor)
    7. Background Virtual color wheel > BG Colour
    8. Background Red/Cyan coarse > Cyan
    9. Background Red/Cyan fine (attached to Cyan)
    10. Background Green/Magenta coarse > Magenta
    11. Background Green/Magenta fine > (attached to Magenta)
    12. Background Blue/Yellow coarse > Yellow
    13. Background Blue/Yellow fine > (attached to Yellow)
    14. Background White coarse > White
    15. Background White fine > (attached to White)
    16. Background CTC > CTO
    17. Background shutter/strobe > BG Strobe
    18. Background dimmer intensity coarse > BG Intensity
    19. Background dimmer intensity fine > (attached to BG intensity)
    20. Background active zone > Macro
    21. Color Mix control > Control Modifier (in Slot Toolbar)
    22. Flower Effect > Beam Fx and Beam Fx <>
    23. Flower Effect Red/Cyan > LED Red
    24. Flower Effect Green/Magenta > LED Green
    25. Flower Effect Blue/Yellow > LED Blue
    26. Flower Effect White > LED White
    27. Flower Effect color macros > Colour
    28. Flower Effect shutter strobe > Strobe 2
    29. Flower Effect dimmer intensity > Sub Intensity 1
    30. Zoom coarse > Zoom
    31. Zoom fine > (attached to Zoom)
    32. Pattern selection > Macro 2
    33. Pattern repeat (size) > Macro 3
    34. Pattern rotation > Macro 2 <>
    35. Pattern fade > Macro 2 Intensity
    36. Pattern transition > Macro 2 Time
    37. Pattern crossfade > Macro 2 Xfade
    38. Pattern red > LED Red
    39. Pattern green > LED Green
    40. Pattern blue > LED Blue
    41. Pattern white > LED White
    42. Pattern color macro > Colour 2
    43. Pattern shutter/strobe > Strobe 3
    44. Pattern dimmer intensity > Sub Intensity 2
    45. Master shutter strobe > Strobe
    46. Master dimmer intensity coarse > constant (cannot be changed)
    47. Master dimmer intensity fine > constant (cannot be changed)

    The sections are made up of (found by pressing Show Details in the Fixture Window):

    • DMX channels 1-6 are available through user number "x." (x represents the fixture's whole number, and . represents the . key)
    • DMX channels 7-21 are available through user number "x.1"
    • DMX channels 22-29 are available through user number "x.2"
    • DMX channels 30-31 are available through user number "x.3"
    • DMX channels 32-44 are available through user number "x.4"
    • DMX channels 45-47 are available through user number "x.5"

    So the Macro channel you mentioned above is the Background - active zone function, and the number matches up to the DMX value of the active zone in the DMX chart.

  • 0 in reply to ETC Kyle Kurtich

    Hello,

    Thanks for the reply. That already helped.
    But I still don't understand how I can use it. What would be the way if I wanted the background to be blue and on top of it I wanted to have the radioactive symbol in white. How do I do that?

  • 0 in reply to jan m

    That is something you might want to pose someplace where more Robe fixture users are. I can only assume as I have never used the fixture, and I have only seen the DMX chart.

    My assumption is to bring the background (x.1) to full and set the color.  Then either the flower (x.2) or the pattern (x.4) to full and find whatever setting creates the look you want.

    Again, that question might best be posed to a Robe fixture user group, or to Robe support themselves.

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