Color Not Working On Paradigm

I work in a theater that has an ETC element for main show control (cueing) and we use paradigm button stations to pull up "scenes that for smaller events" I was programming a few things into the button stations a couple of days ago and we have a mostly led color mixing rig and I went to make the scenes on our element console to then record into the button stations and the color and everything worked just fine and then as soon as I programmed it into the button stations and did clear sneak enter on the element all of the color on the stage turned white. Does anyone have any idea why this might be happening and how I might fix it?



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  • Ueliriegg has it pretty much right - one thing you will want to be aware of is that your Element always wants to set “multi-parameter fixtures” (MPF) to a home value when you “release” them. So when you hit clear/sneak/enter, while you’ve set the DMX value for the INTENSITY to 0, the RGB values (and any other parameter like strobe, or color wheel, or position that might be applicable) have been reset to “home”. In the case of RGB values that would be 100,100,100 or white. 

    Two simple ways to work around this - when you want to use Paradigm for ease of operation, shut down the Element so that it is not outputting DMX or unplug the DMX cable from the Element. When you need to use Element for accuracy and show, make sure Paradigm is in an “Off” preset. Or create a cue in Element that not only sets intensity for all fixtures to 0 but also intentionally forces all other parameters to 0.

    Short answer is plan to use only one or the other system at any time other than when you are actively programming Paradigm presets, and make sure to run a Paradigm “Off” preset between records - remember Paradigm is snap-shotting EACH INDIVIDUAL DMX ADDRESS (probably in the entire universe), whether you can see a result on stage for a given address or not. I.e a fixture can be at 0 intensity from either Paradigm or Element, and you won’t see that the fixture has red @60 until you try to bring up intensity in blue and get magenta...

    If you get a technician involved, there are several ways to make this more obvious, such as having the Element be at a higher priority (ELEMENT always wins if it is on) or having a specific button toggle between Console Mode and Paradigm Mode, but ultimately these would provide essentially the same result - allowing you to only use one or the other at a given time. 

    It is a bit of a challenge with MPF in your Paradigm presets to go back to the old days where you used the “Architectural” controls to only run the house lights, and the “Light Board” to only run the stage unless you set up Paradigm specifically for that configuration. 

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  • Ueliriegg has it pretty much right - one thing you will want to be aware of is that your Element always wants to set “multi-parameter fixtures” (MPF) to a home value when you “release” them. So when you hit clear/sneak/enter, while you’ve set the DMX value for the INTENSITY to 0, the RGB values (and any other parameter like strobe, or color wheel, or position that might be applicable) have been reset to “home”. In the case of RGB values that would be 100,100,100 or white. 

    Two simple ways to work around this - when you want to use Paradigm for ease of operation, shut down the Element so that it is not outputting DMX or unplug the DMX cable from the Element. When you need to use Element for accuracy and show, make sure Paradigm is in an “Off” preset. Or create a cue in Element that not only sets intensity for all fixtures to 0 but also intentionally forces all other parameters to 0.

    Short answer is plan to use only one or the other system at any time other than when you are actively programming Paradigm presets, and make sure to run a Paradigm “Off” preset between records - remember Paradigm is snap-shotting EACH INDIVIDUAL DMX ADDRESS (probably in the entire universe), whether you can see a result on stage for a given address or not. I.e a fixture can be at 0 intensity from either Paradigm or Element, and you won’t see that the fixture has red @60 until you try to bring up intensity in blue and get magenta...

    If you get a technician involved, there are several ways to make this more obvious, such as having the Element be at a higher priority (ELEMENT always wins if it is on) or having a specific button toggle between Console Mode and Paradigm Mode, but ultimately these would provide essentially the same result - allowing you to only use one or the other at a given time. 

    It is a bit of a challenge with MPF in your Paradigm presets to go back to the old days where you used the “Architectural” controls to only run the house lights, and the “Light Board” to only run the stage unless you set up Paradigm specifically for that configuration. 

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