Blind to Live Time

First of all, there is no Programmer in Congo - that concept simply doesn't exist.

Instead, Congo has many editor tabs - each tab contains levels and a selection, and allows you to edit whatever is in it - a Preset, an unrecorded look or whatever (palettes/groups etc). You can of course have several open and visible at once.

The Blind tab is really a "scratch" field where you can drop stuff for a while before deciding where to record it - eg a snapshot of current that you'll record later ([Live] & [Blind])

Blind editing is generally done in the Preset/Sequence Lists - which are split tabs that let you edit (or create) any Preset, based on any other or none.

I am rather confused as to your end purpose here though - what are you actually trying to do?

You can do timed changes in Direct Selects using # [Direct_Select] - eg a 5 sec move to Focus Palette 1 would be 5 [Focus_Direct_Select_1]
- This is similar to the "Avolites" style of busking.

If you want to build a Preset blind and then crossfade to it, hit [B] to open the B tab, make changes (record or not), hit Go.
(The B field [B] is always the "next" look in the Main Playback.)

To make a partial look blind then add it to Live, edit a Preset on a Master that's at zero, then fade the master up (manual or timed).

Alternatively you could use the Dual-Preset Jam mode - top masters are 'next', bottom faders 'live', the masters [>] (go) button is Go.

Thanks Richard.

I certainly understand there is no programmer; I had assumed that referring to that behavior would explain what I was looking for but I understand that was too great an assumption.  That explanation of the Blind tab is probably the best I have heard of it's intended use and it makes sense, in that context, that it can't, and probably shouldn't, do what I asked for.

What I am after is a way to build a complete look, using Groups, Palettes, etc... "blind" and then fade in to that look in whatever timing I would like.  I LOVE the way that timed changes using Direct Selects work, but I can only make one change at a time; not create a complete look (that hasn't been previously recorded) that I can transition in to at once this way.

I will experiment more with the B field and empty masters; it sounds like, as usual, Congo will do what I want I just need to learn how to do it...

Happy New Year!

Best,

John

After a bit of playing,  B seems to allow me to set intensities as expected, but as soon as I start trying to adjust parameters those changes happen live.  I thought this was, perhaps, just marking behavior for fixtures with no intensities, but changing the Attribute Playback Default to On Go didn't fix this problem.  Also, if I tap the Attribute button in B it pops me directly to the Live display (though it doesn't change to the attributes display).  I see this behavior both on a Congo Jr as well as the offline editor; both running V6.3.

Best,

John

Oops, sorry, the A/B tabs don't have an attributes editor at present. (Haven't had a chance to confirm until today.)

The attribute controls (FCB, encoders & Direct Selects) are always 'Live' unless the tab is in Attrib mode.
- If [Attrib] is not supported in your current tab it's treated as if you pressed [Live].

Note that in order for a Master to have any attributes, it has to contain an extant Preset, and the Preset Attribute Editors are always Blind.

Well that all matches what I was seeing; I am glad that I wasn't missing something obvious. Thanks for looking in to it!

Best,

John