v5 Effects package

I've come across a couple of questions/requests while exploring the new effects package. 

When building a channel set is it possible to eliminate the empty step?  I was building a fly-out>zoom>fade out>repeat effect on a couple of revolutions and found that when I offset them into two groups there was a delay between the end of the second group and the restart of the effect.  I think this is because of the empty step in the channel set.

In the Live Effects tab there is no option to adjust the form on dynamic effects.  I found this pretty useful for making adjustments to circles and such to get a more round or elliptical shape.  Was it just overlooked or left out for a reason?  Is there another way to get a similar adjustment?  The fade type selection is also missing but this isn't really necessary anymore because you can actually fade either size or rate as part of the preset.

Something that took me a while to find and might be helpful to others is the marked changed command for effects.  You can mark individual effect parameters as changed the same way you do for fixture parameters.  Hold down the mark changed soft key (Devices>Mark Changed) and tap the soft keys for the parameters you want to mark changed.  You can also use U1>U3 to mark groups of parameters. (U1>U3 is also how you get to the soft-keys for an effect you have selected.)  It would be nice to have a mark changed soft key under the effects set of soft-keys.  Maybe for now I'll put it on one of the masters since we can now do that. :)

I'm sure I'll be back often as I keep poking around in the new software.

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  • Some quick answers:

    Empty step: Actually, there is no empty step. This is just a placeholder that is displayed in the editor to allow you to create new steps at the end. This "step" doesn't really exist internally and should not affect the execution of effects in any way. Are you running a Dynamic Effect when you see the delay? The internal engine for dynamic effects is the same as in v4 so it should behave as before. Do you see a delay when you use Groups instead of Sets? 

    Regarding Form: Yes, it was left out on purpose because we regarded it as a less used function. Maybe, we were wrong! Let's see if there is a general demand to add it as a parameter.


    Regarding Fade type: As you say, this parameter isn't really necessary anymore because of the way the new effects work.
     

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  • Some quick answers:

    Empty step: Actually, there is no empty step. This is just a placeholder that is displayed in the editor to allow you to create new steps at the end. This "step" doesn't really exist internally and should not affect the execution of effects in any way. Are you running a Dynamic Effect when you see the delay? The internal engine for dynamic effects is the same as in v4 so it should behave as before. Do you see a delay when you use Groups instead of Sets? 

    Regarding Form: Yes, it was left out on purpose because we regarded it as a less used function. Maybe, we were wrong! Let's see if there is a general demand to add it as a parameter.


    Regarding Fade type: As you say, this parameter isn't really necessary anymore because of the way the new effects work.
     

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