Effects

Hello all. I am a novice designer and using the Congo Jr. I have used a lot of consoles before and have figured out a lot of this one, but need to design some movement for the lights and want to do this the best way possible. I tried applying some effects and really like them, but need to know the basics of how these are supposed to work. Also, should I use these instead of macros? My lights are HE studio spots, commands; and Martin kryptons and washes. One specific problem I have is that I can't make the the effect stop, so when someone is speaking, the fixtures are still moving even tho no intensity, this is distracting. Do I need to record a "no move" effect on these cues or what? Since last take precedence.

Have read several posts on effects that I think will be much more helpful when I have a basic foundation of how effects work.

Thanks in advance!

Hilary M Nortz
LD, People's Church, OKC 

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  • Hi Hilary,

    The Effects Playbacks are very powerful.  Think of them as an additional multi attribute  channel to control a range of fixtures instead of just one.

    They will help you out with the starting and stopping of effects.

    Also, check in the console setup and see if you have the box checked for keep running dynamics.  If it is checked, un-check it and see if that fixes your issues.

    Are you running sequences or are you running effects off of masters?  If you are running effects off of masters than see if  "rubberband" is turned on! 

    The Congo is a very versatile desk and will allow you to control lighting in different manors so that you can run your show the way you want.  I do many different styles of show and often set-up the Congo differently depending on the style of show that I am running.

    I hope this helps, post again if you need more help.  I love the Congo and am always willing to help people become more familiar with it.

    Take care,

    John

  • I am running presets in a sequence on the main playback. Where is that setting to "keep effects running" or not?

    Can you break down the effects playback? I made a preset i really liked so i added some color and conventionals to it for a preset for this sunday and recorded it as another preset. Well when i go back to play that preset, it has everything but the dynamic effects. When I go the Live effects tab, it shows the four effects and says running. But....they are not moving. Help...?

  • Because the Effects Playbacks are multi attribute channels (like a moving light) you have to give the attributes values.  These values are LTP.  So, when you start the console, they don't have any values.  When I use Effects Playbacks, I record an ALL Palette with the values for the effects.  I then record the Palette into the cue for the effects playback.

    Also, with effects playbacks, the level has to be brought up for the effect to work.

    What I think might have happened to you, is that you created the effect, then you went to the cue and the changed flags for the Effect Playback were cleared but the values remained because of LTP.  You then brought up the channels and everything looked good, so you recorded or updated the preset.  The attributes were set to record "changed" and because the change flags had been cleared there were no attribute values recorded for the preset.  So, when you went to run the effect later, you didn't get any effect. 

    This is where the "Set Changed" softkey (under the device softkey) is useful.  Select the Effect Playback, press and hold "Set Changed" and press the Palette button.  In the Live Attributes tab, you will see the Effect Playback attribute boxes are all purple.  Now, when you record or update, all of the effects data will be included in the preset.

    As for the "keep effects running", it is a setting in the Play Settings.  You can get to this by pressing [Setup] and tab to the 2nd or 3rd tab to find it, (sorry, I don't have the console or my computer with the Congo software anywhere close).  Alternately, you can go into the browser and I believe under General Settings you can get to the play settings.

    I hope this helps!

    Take care,

    John

     

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  • Because the Effects Playbacks are multi attribute channels (like a moving light) you have to give the attributes values.  These values are LTP.  So, when you start the console, they don't have any values.  When I use Effects Playbacks, I record an ALL Palette with the values for the effects.  I then record the Palette into the cue for the effects playback.

    Also, with effects playbacks, the level has to be brought up for the effect to work.

    What I think might have happened to you, is that you created the effect, then you went to the cue and the changed flags for the Effect Playback were cleared but the values remained because of LTP.  You then brought up the channels and everything looked good, so you recorded or updated the preset.  The attributes were set to record "changed" and because the change flags had been cleared there were no attribute values recorded for the preset.  So, when you went to run the effect later, you didn't get any effect. 

    This is where the "Set Changed" softkey (under the device softkey) is useful.  Select the Effect Playback, press and hold "Set Changed" and press the Palette button.  In the Live Attributes tab, you will see the Effect Playback attribute boxes are all purple.  Now, when you record or update, all of the effects data will be included in the preset.

    As for the "keep effects running", it is a setting in the Play Settings.  You can get to this by pressing [Setup] and tab to the 2nd or 3rd tab to find it, (sorry, I don't have the console or my computer with the Congo software anywhere close).  Alternately, you can go into the browser and I believe under General Settings you can get to the play settings.

    I hope this helps!

    Take care,

    John

     

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