Default Show - Do you use one and what do you set up in it

Hello Congo users,

Looking at setting up a better re-usable default show file which acts as a base for shows well beyond starting from scratch and most importantly can be used in different venues

I'm interested to know what others have found of use from one show to the next. Palettes, masks and effects spring to mind and even independents.

Have you found any really useful set-ups you'd hate to be without?

Cheers

Andy

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  • Hi Andy,

    I have a template which I use for all shows, and update it as I develop new effects/palletes etc.
    I'm fortunate to have a generally fixed/generic rig, with only 2 variations of configuration. 1/ Standard & 2/ Dance season.
    Dance season adds additional sidelighting and rear lighting to the standard rig.

    I always start with my groups. I break them into the 3 or 4 colour areas and work from Front of House, to Overhead to Cyc. Side lighting and IMovers/LEDs
    At any time I know which group is which by a simple scheme. of Blue, Red, Amber & Other.
    My FOH groups are 1=Blue, 2=Red, 3=Amber,4=Open White.
    My Stage groups add a 1 to the front of these numbers, so STage Overhead is, Blue =11, Red =12, Amber =13, Open White =14
    My Cyc adds a 2, i.e Blue Cyc = 21, Red Cyc = 22, Yellow Cyc =23, Green Cyc=24.
    I have additional groups for various other lamps, such as my down lights ( 9 pattern ).

    For all of my groups I have the first 2 pages of Masters layed out such that I can access all of these, and use them to 'paint' a stage state with.

    Once I have set all of these, and there are always additional groups being made for special combinations of lamps, I make a "functional channel layout'
    This will have the individual lamps in indication of their location on stage, group by use. I.e all Overhead Reds are together, near the overhead Blues.
    All Cycs are together, and in locations indicating whether they are ground or hanging , Stage Left, or Stage right.
    Side lights are also in groups of Low , Mid & High and which wing & side of stage they are.

    WIth this functional layout I don't need to know ANY channel numbers but can point & click to choose lamps, or grab an area but clicking & holding the mouse button down.

    On Independants I have Inhibits on the Left side and exclusives on the Right.My Inhibits control FOH, SIdeLights, and Cyc, to allow me to stop those being used at the wrong times.
    My exclusives are used as required.
    On the 3 independant buttons I have Strobe on Left , centre spare, and smoke on the right.

    In my basic show I have many different screen layouts; i.e Show & FX, Design, All live, etc. each one designed for a different function , i.e building as show, editing a show & running a show.

    On my Direct Selects I have items which are likely to be intelligent or moving lights i.e. LED's and Movers.
    I have one bank associated with groups so I can select all, or combinations with one or 2 touches. I have this dupliacted on 2 Direct Select button groups.

    One (of the 5) is set for colour & gobo/beam combinations, The other is Positions/Focus pallettes.

    In my basic Show I have cue 0.1 as Black out, cue 0.4 as Curtain washers with work light ( when the house curtain is in, pre-show) cue 0.9 is Black out prior to Show start... then the show cues start.  On Cue 0.4 I have pre-loaded 20 Effects using the groups I have, i.e Cyc groups, witt all effect intensities at 0, but the rest loaded so I can just select the effect and roll it up on the wheel.

    I ihave created a heap of 'standard' chases, i.e. step effects, which I rarely use now, and these are stored  as Sequences accessed on high Master pages so that I can scroll through various effects quickly to get an idea of what a client is looking for.

    Theres so much more but I have to go plot so will see what else springs to mind afterward
    Cheers,

    Ric

  • Cheers for the lengthy reply and taking the time Ric!

    Hoping a few others might chip in with things that they find useful.

    How much do you re-use content effects you make as im guessing your groups or sets remain fairly constant through shows being in the one venue? Do you ever use congo on other jobs elsewhere too ?

    Cheers

  • Hi Andy,

    We only use the Congo in the one venue here; a 477 seat Council run Community Theatre.
    The performances range from Dance schools ( which is what we're in the middle of) school presentations and musical production through to professional plays, bands, comedy etc.  A very diverse range of performances. A few of the incoming companies do bring their on lighting control solution, usually PC based, but occasionally a Strand Pallete of some description.

    For the end of year, dance season, shows I tend to use my pre-built palette of groups & effect, but of course it does get modified when there is a need/request that doesn't fit what is already there. It's a good way to break the stagnation barrier, and find new looks on the stage that I've lit hundreds of times. :-)

    Cheers,

    Ric



    [edited by: Ric at 12:13 AM (GMT -6) on Tue, Dec 13 2011]
  • Hi Andy

    I'm in a venue that has a standard rig that changes as required. We simply have a show file which is our template. I've wanted to use the default show option as a back up if the template got corrupted and an easy way to get things started for touring shows but with the lack of effects and other features I can't really utilise it.

    Perhaps I'm after using it in a different way than intended but I would be after everything that gets stored in a full show file.

    It would be useful as we try to plot new things in the template file then save as that days show afterwards. Being able to update just part of the default show no matter what show is loaded would be helpful.

    Thanks

    Gareth

     

  • Hi Gareth ,

    I'm with you there in as much as I often use a show file as a 'base/ default' starting point. I just name it appropriately and if there's something useful to import from another show file i can then. I suppose it does require opening the ' base' play and importing but that's not too bad as you can do it at any time thats convenient

    So for every 'new' show coming in you open your template show and save it straight away as the new show name for that day? or do you plot over the template and then when done save as the new file!?

    You say you're ' after using it in a different way' - whats the ideal for you then?

    Just out of interest, if your rig changes do you rename dimmers and devices in the patch  and are you using RPN or @mode?

    Cheers

  • What Ric and Gareth said, for my house rig full of movers and season full of one-offs.

    In my base showfile I also keep the Channel Database current with any hang changes intended to to be permanent. If the Saved As showfile contains a variation on a standard house Palette I'll note it as such there, but the base showfile is the 'Bible,' so to speak. 

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  • What Ric and Gareth said, for my house rig full of movers and season full of one-offs.

    In my base showfile I also keep the Channel Database current with any hang changes intended to to be permanent. If the Saved As showfile contains a variation on a standard house Palette I'll note it as such there, but the base showfile is the 'Bible,' so to speak. 

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