2.7.154 bug - selecting MC magic sheet channel objects (not in release notes known issues list)

I'm loving a lot of the new features in 2.7, however, there are a few bugs I reported in the beta forum a few versions ago that do not appear on the "known issues" list in the release notes, so in case they slipped through the cracks, here is the one I feel is the most important:

Issues when selecting magic sheet channel objects for multi-cell fixtures. 

Clicking a MS channel object for a multi-cell fixture selects the master channel only without its cells.  What I expect is the plain channel number, just as if I had typed the number using the keyboard.  As it stands, if for example my fixtures are RGB strip lights broken into cells, all I can adjust by clicking the magic sheet channel object is the master intensity, not the colors.

This issue becomes especially problematic when selecting multiple multi-cell channel objects, as shown in this screen capture:

In this example, channels 1 thru 10 are simple six-bulb space lights.  In this case what I expect on the command line is "Chan 3 Thru 4 + 7 Thru 8".  FWIW that is what happens by clicking on master channel tiles in the live table, or channel direct select tiles. 

Instead, the current implementation for magic sheets posts a cumbersome syntax which is also incorrect--despite being shown on the command line, "3 thru 4 cells only" are not actually part of the selection.  However, if you next hit period (in the expectation that the whole channel was selected and you could now start specifying cells etc), you get a syntax error, while 3 thru 4 cells only is now added to the selection:

At this point, hitting clear to remove the syntax error leaves the selection where it is--which is different from before the error.

I hope these issues can be given priority, since IMO the current behavior makes using multicell fixtures in magic sheets quite difficult, so much so that I really can't use the fantastic new multi-cell feature until it is addressed.

As a related feature request, it would be really useful to be able to specify Minus Cells or Cells Only within a channel object, although I imagine that might take some time to implement.

Thanks, 

Matthew Rohn
IATSE Local 52

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  • I agree with you.
    But for now, you can make your MS objects into commands.

    Set the target to "command".
    For the entire channel, type "+3" in the command field (you will need to use an external keyboard for the plus).
    For cells only, type "+3."
    Set one of the fields to be "Target Name".

    Now you can use the MS to select entire channels or cells only by clicking them one at a time. But the "lasso" method in your first picture won't work.
  • Yeah I figured the only workaround for the time being is playing with command objects but it’s really not the same. I like to set up my magic sheets geographically so if the gaffer says “give me half bulbs on the space lights outside the living room” it would be great if I could just drag-select (or even click) on the channels and then tell the console what I want to do in terms of cell selection, instead of having the ability to make that choice taken away. Clicking on channel objects should behave precisely the same way as if you entered the numbers on the keyboard.

    It would be great to hear from someone on the development team whether this is being looked at.
  • In reply to mdrohn:

    Hi Matthew,

    A fix for channel MS objects selecting only the master cell (minus cells) has been fixed and is available in the 2.7.2.11 open beta if you're interested in checking it out before release.

    I haven't had a chance to look into the second part of your issue.

    Adding the option to specify cells only or minus cells is on our radar. Deciding how to implement it will be another issue.

    Thanks
    Matthew Dews
    Eos Software Engineer
  • In reply to Matthew Dews:

    That’s fantastic Matthew, thanks!
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