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BUG HOG 4 V4.2.0 - Import Timecode/Cuelist File Error and findings

Hello everyone

I found a problem with importing from Reaper csv file to a hog cuelists
I have been trying with various V4 versions see my findings below.
A lot has happened in the Cuelist directory

V4.2.0
Import possible / Export not possible
- Import Reaper "CSV"
- Import Inqscribe "XML"
- Import CuePoints "XML"

V4.2.0
Reaper File not working
regions don't work.
Only Marks are put in a cuelist and the times become 00/00/00.00

V4.1.0
Import possible / Export not possible
- Import Reaper "CSV"
- Import Inqscribe "XML"

V4.1.0
The reaper File does not work completely
If you import the Reaper CSV, the regions do not work so you should leave them out in Reaper
the cues are now imported with timecode.

V4.0.0
Import/Export possible
- Import Cuelists "CSV"
- Export Cuelists "XML"

V4.0.0
The reaper File works perfectly as it should
If you import the Reaper CSV, the regions will work and the cue lists will be created
to the numbers of the regions, the associated Cues

For example:

Region 1 - Cuelist 1
Mark 1 - Cue 1
Mark 2 - Cue 2
Mark 3 - Cue 3
Mark 4 - Cue 4

Region 10 - Cuelist 10
Mark 5 - Cue 1
Mark 6 - Cue 2
Mark 7 - Cue 3
Mark 8 - Cue 4

Solution 1
Install on your laptop Hog PC V4.0.0
"make a new show" and import the Reaper CSV file into the Cuelist Directory
Then "Export Cuelists" it will then become an XML File
Then import your Cuelist into Hog V4.2.0 on your Console in the Cuelist Directory "Import CuePoints"
and then you have your cuelist with timecode
It's a bit fiddly but it will work And you don't have to buy any software

Solution 2
If you want to make multiple Qlist export From the CSV reaper with Regions and Markers.
Then convert these with "Markers to CueList" ( https://k-mt.net/markers-to-cuelist )
The free version goes up to 5 cues if you want more you have to buy the software $225.67
In the program you get the choices which list you want to export, you have to make an xml export per cuelist.
And you import these without problems in hog 4


Solution 3
I found out that the wrong symbols are used in the csv file.
In some places ":" is used and this should be "."
Also the Regions do not work if you use the CSV directly to hog 4
So I would only use this if you have 1 Cuelist.
Or create a separate project per cuelist.
I have added a picture where you can see what the export from reaper is and what it should be to be able to export in hog.
The disadvantage of this is that you have to manually change the " : " to " . " yourself.

  • It frustrates me that they removed the Cuelist Export and "normal" XML Import functions. Also in the help manual the feature has been removed. Why?? 

  • in reply to szuidgeest

    I agree. This needs restoring urgently. Something that has worked for years is now unreliable and broken

  • I also encountered this recently with a reaper TC list.


    Fortunately had 2 consoles in front me on the day so once I’d figured out what was going on I put one desk on 3.21.1 and left the main console on 4.2.0.

    Imported the timecode list on 3.21.1 > exported show XML > import show in 4.2.0 into new blanck show > merged cue list from blank show into actual show on 4.2.0 

    Another weird thing that happened on both versions was the list imported with the first cue being ‘cue 0 if you logged off and and on again that cue was deleted.  Solved by hitting the ’Renumber’ soft key

  • in reply to thegingertreat

    This needs looking at urgently. Totally destroys my workflow. 

  • This has been logged as H4OS-10665.

  • in reply to Michael Graham

    Just to clarify we now appear to have lost the ability to export an XML from the cuelist window. Furthermore by having 3 defined import xml options it's no longer clear which option should be used for importing from other sources such as MLA or another hog. I find this both restrictive and confusing enhancements to a long established workflow.

  • in reply to rwilliams

    Another music show today where all the supplied reaper files don’t work - same issue as reported in the first post of the thread - needed to import them all into Cuepoints then export them from there into the hog. Really hoping this can be looked at soon as it’s only a question of reverting back to how things used to work

  • in reply to rwilliams

    Hey Ross, I let the team know and have add your comment to the defect. 

  • in reply to Michael Graham

    Many thanks Michael

  • It look like that import Cuepoints file are also broken...... Tried to import an cue point xml file and the operation fails.....

    Hope that this can be fixed really fast, it breaks the workflow for a lot of people in the business...

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