HTP effects

Ok,
i see your point about the scenario you have listed and i think i can see where this may be of some use but i myself would usually program this on the same cuelist.
Try this you are programming for another LD and they want 3 different moving light intensity f/x cues on the same fader.
Cue 1/ Slow
Cue 2/ Med-fast
Cue 3/ Fast

I don't want to run virtual cuelists and actually want to be able to fade the f/x in and out manually on the fader which to the best of my limited knowledge without making the fader a GO+0% not an option? please correct me if this is possible.
another option is to record 3 faders with a slow/med/fast intensity f/x on each.

Scenario 2
I have some generics and some moving lights on the safe fader/handle for an awards thing on tv.
Cue 1/static podium look fixture 1-10 and desk 1-3 at full so i can ride the fader for tv levels
Cue 2/Fixture 1-10 intensity and movement f/x engine and desk 1-3 levels untouched.

As far as i can see this would be a fairly standard ask,

Not having the option to run either HTP or be able to change the f/x speed live is a bit of a drag really and is something i would like to see one of these addressed when there is a window of opportunity available.
What about being able to record HTP f/x in scene's only as a compromise at least then 1 HTP scene could be used?

Not a rant just questions
thanks C

Ok,
i see your point about the scenario you have listed and i think i can see where this may be of some use but i myself would usually program this on the same cuelist.
Try this you are programming for another LD and they want 3 different moving light intensity f/x cues on the same fader.
Cue 1/ Slow
Cue 2/ Med-fast
Cue 3/ Fast

I don't want to run virtual cuelists and actually want to be able to fade the f/x in and out manually on the fader which to the best of my limited knowledge without making the fader a GO+0% not an option? please correct me if this is possible.
another option is to record 3 faders with a slow/med/fast intensity f/x on each.

Scenario 2
I have some generics and some moving lights on the safe fader/handle for an awards thing on tv.
Cue 1/static podium look fixture 1-10 and desk 1-3 at full so i can ride the fader for tv levels
Cue 2/Fixture 1-10 intensity and movement f/x engine and desk 1-3 levels untouched.

As far as i can see this would be a fairly standard ask,

Not having the option to run either HTP or be able to change the f/x speed live is a bit of a drag really and is something i would like to see one of these addressed when there is a window of opportunity available.
What about being able to record HTP f/x in scene's only as a compromise at least then 1 HTP scene could be used?

Not a rant just questions
thanks C