intensity effect overrides new to Hog III

So this is something that has driven me crazy since moving to Hog III, and one of the few places where I really feel they "broke" something with the new OS. Because there are never enough faders, when punting a show one thing I do is record intensity of a group into cue 1 of a cuelist that has other info on it, for example color, for that same group. So I can use the fader to control intensity, the cuelist buttons to change colors. Then on another fader I may do a stack of intensity effects, "slow, med, fast," etc. That way I can easily switch between an intensity effect and regular intensity control on the main intensity control fader.
What is killing me is that now if I change a color while running an intensity effect, the effect will stop running, even if the main intensity fader is down because the new cue has tracking intensity info. On Hog II you could set both faders to use HTP and avoid this, but with Hog III setting a stack of intensity effects to use HTP will disable the effects.
You might think setting the options to 'persist on override' on one or the other or both of the cuelists would fix this: nope. (Not really sure what that option is useful for then...)
The workaround I've come up with is to change the Halt button to Assert, then quickly reasserting the effect after I change the color. But this is annoying to have to do, not to mention disabling the backup functionality of the Halt button.
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  • Thanks Marty, but that isn't quite what I'm trying to accomplish. In your scenario, I would lose the ability to override the intensity effects at will just by bringing up my main intensity fader, indeed I would lose all regular intensity control. That fader would essentially just be for base value control of the effect.
    I'm trying to have one fader that controls regular intensity, another that controls the intensity of the effect. I don't need to adjust the base values of the effect, because using HTP, if I have the main intensity fader up to 50%, and the intensity FX fader to full, the effect will run between 50% and full. Adjusting the main intensity handle adjusts the apparent size of the effect. I can bring either handle up or down without re-executing a cue to control the effect or regular intensity.
    The problem is when I have other info in the main intensity handle (color, position, gobo, anything) changing that cue steps on the intensity effect. Essentially, the root of the issue seems to be the HTP functionality isn't quite fully there (unlike Hog II, I hate to reiterate). It is treating the intensity parameter like LTP instead, though it is set to HTP.
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  • Thanks Marty, but that isn't quite what I'm trying to accomplish. In your scenario, I would lose the ability to override the intensity effects at will just by bringing up my main intensity fader, indeed I would lose all regular intensity control. That fader would essentially just be for base value control of the effect.
    I'm trying to have one fader that controls regular intensity, another that controls the intensity of the effect. I don't need to adjust the base values of the effect, because using HTP, if I have the main intensity fader up to 50%, and the intensity FX fader to full, the effect will run between 50% and full. Adjusting the main intensity handle adjusts the apparent size of the effect. I can bring either handle up or down without re-executing a cue to control the effect or regular intensity.
    The problem is when I have other info in the main intensity handle (color, position, gobo, anything) changing that cue steps on the intensity effect. Essentially, the root of the issue seems to be the HTP functionality isn't quite fully there (unlike Hog II, I hate to reiterate). It is treating the intensity parameter like LTP instead, though it is set to HTP.
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