MIDI notes...

Hey Guys,
I've been programming on your boards / software for the better part of 3 years and love SOOOOOO much about how the wholehog systems go about things. Thanks for that!

Now is when I switch modes though, and ask why in the world there is not a midi-note control for WH3??? This was in 2, but somehow, after many many strings of questions in these forums, it is still ignored as a feature request.

If I sound pissed/impatient/disappointed, it's only because the neglect of this feature has cause immense headaches for me and at least 2 of my colleagues at other organizations and companies. On top of that, one of my clients wants to use a solution where midi notes could be used, but because they are not in the current wholehog feature set, I am forced to look elsewhere.

PLEASE take another look at this and consider the many ways this could help bands, houses of worship, and production companies use your otherwise awesome product in new and creative ways (ableton, etc...)

Thanks so much,
Jeff Johnson
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  • Jeff,

    As a community member, thanks for a constructively written request. If anything that follows seems obvious, please disregard. I just want to make sure we're on the same page. (i.e. - no slights are intended)

    While the MIDI note functionality does not exist in the same manner as seen on the Whole Hog II, there is in fact a pretty robust MIDI implementation that makes use of bi-directional MIDI Show Control (MSC) and uni-directional MIDI Notes output. (In fact, I was using the MIDI Notes functionality just last week in coordination with Q-Lab.)

    [MIDI Notes]

    In Section 29.1 (Page 331 of the current manual) you can find the documentation for the Comment Macro which allows for the output of any MIDI string at the moment of a specific cue. (This could of course be built into an empty cue, and even a page change quite easily.)

    [MIDI Show Control]

    In Section 28.2.3 (Page 320 of the current manual) you can find the documentation for the implementation of MIDI Show Control (MSC). MSC can be used as both an input to and an output from the console. Most of today's MIDI-enabled software supports MSC, which is significantly easier to deal with, as it 'thinks' a little more like we do (i.e. not in hex values).

    This is also the current method of slaving/tracking consoles to each other.

    It's worth pointing out that MSC can be enabled/disabled on any cue list.

    I hope that answered part of your question. That being said, what important functionality do you still feel is missing from this implementation. I know that Barco/HES/FPS is always looking for input on future functionality.

    Cheers,

    Phil
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  • Jeff,

    As a community member, thanks for a constructively written request. If anything that follows seems obvious, please disregard. I just want to make sure we're on the same page. (i.e. - no slights are intended)

    While the MIDI note functionality does not exist in the same manner as seen on the Whole Hog II, there is in fact a pretty robust MIDI implementation that makes use of bi-directional MIDI Show Control (MSC) and uni-directional MIDI Notes output. (In fact, I was using the MIDI Notes functionality just last week in coordination with Q-Lab.)

    [MIDI Notes]

    In Section 29.1 (Page 331 of the current manual) you can find the documentation for the Comment Macro which allows for the output of any MIDI string at the moment of a specific cue. (This could of course be built into an empty cue, and even a page change quite easily.)

    [MIDI Show Control]

    In Section 28.2.3 (Page 320 of the current manual) you can find the documentation for the implementation of MIDI Show Control (MSC). MSC can be used as both an input to and an output from the console. Most of today's MIDI-enabled software supports MSC, which is significantly easier to deal with, as it 'thinks' a little more like we do (i.e. not in hex values).

    This is also the current method of slaving/tracking consoles to each other.

    It's worth pointing out that MSC can be enabled/disabled on any cue list.

    I hope that answered part of your question. That being said, what important functionality do you still feel is missing from this implementation. I know that Barco/HES/FPS is always looking for input on future functionality.

    Cheers,

    Phil
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