I needs some tips please.

I have an opportunity to programm a festival coming up and I have a good base knowledge of the hog 3. I recently have been introduced to the concept of busking and creating playbacks for different parameters and being able to play them back at any time rather than trying to think through every cue. My problem is trying to implement this with the hog. Given I will have only 9 or 10 playback faders how do I get all the different parameters that I would like to access on one playback bus. I've seen talk about about virtual playbacks of the forum but what is a virtual play back on the hog where do you access that. For busking certain parameters I thought I heard pallets were a good way to do this or is that not ok. Also is it possible to use play back faders as effect rate modifiers? The festival isn't very complicated about 60 par cans on a down stage truss and 1K2 movers on an upstage. I'm assuming there needs to be different looks for color washes and chase patterns for the par cans but I would like to do some interesting stuff with the movers. Any tips any one has would be helpful I'm new to this forum. I would really like to learn an efficient way to program a busking type of show.
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  • I remember my first busking show.
    The thought of busking scared the crap out of me after having done years of cue-to-cue shows.

    After about the third song I was lovin' it!
    And by the second event I'd done I was comfortable with the "tricks".
    Jon is a great source on doing this.

    You do need to decide on how you feel most comfortable running it.
    Making use of Pallets and/or Virtual Cuelists.
    Or, rent a Playback Wing or Expansion Wing so you can have everything on hard surface.

    Besides helping you get the board setup here's some tips that help me,
    (the shortlist)

    Forget about a Playlist from the bands, but find out who's playing and listen to their music ahead of time.

    Leave some room for adding things.
    It's all gonna start to make sense part way through and you're gonna go,
    "ooh I need a fader for..." " a ____chase would work great"

    Stop when the music stops.
    If you have Effects and/or Chases running, you'll need to stop them, all.
    One way is a cuelist that is one empty cue with a Macro that Releases all Effect/Chase Lists.

    Light the Money.
    Depending on the music/style you may need to make sure you can always light the lead person/s.
    Have one front fixture dedicated for that.
    Give it it's own separate cuelist.
    Cue 1 Keyboard
    Cue 2 Guitarist.
    Cue 3 Singer
    Update it for each band while they are setting up.

    Layer Parameters/Effects
    Example:
    One Cuelist is a bunch of positions.
    Another list is Position Effects, but recorded with E only (Effect Only).
    That way it adds the Effect to the current position.

    Programming Time
    Regardless of how much time your told you'll have on-site,
    plan for about 1/4 that.
    You can pre-program at least 90% of a busking setup on HOG PC.

    Separating Parameters
    When you select some parameters the console automatically selects its associated ones.
    Like Pan and Tilt.
    Gobo and Gobo Rotate (I believe)
    To de-select one parameter, Hold the backspace key while turning the encoder.
    Then set Rotate at say 200 rpm and record to a cuelist (cue 1).
    Go to Cuelist Options and set as IPCB fader.


    So, before your first time can you get some time on a rig?
    Your local rental shop?
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  • I remember my first busking show.
    The thought of busking scared the crap out of me after having done years of cue-to-cue shows.

    After about the third song I was lovin' it!
    And by the second event I'd done I was comfortable with the "tricks".
    Jon is a great source on doing this.

    You do need to decide on how you feel most comfortable running it.
    Making use of Pallets and/or Virtual Cuelists.
    Or, rent a Playback Wing or Expansion Wing so you can have everything on hard surface.

    Besides helping you get the board setup here's some tips that help me,
    (the shortlist)

    Forget about a Playlist from the bands, but find out who's playing and listen to their music ahead of time.

    Leave some room for adding things.
    It's all gonna start to make sense part way through and you're gonna go,
    "ooh I need a fader for..." " a ____chase would work great"

    Stop when the music stops.
    If you have Effects and/or Chases running, you'll need to stop them, all.
    One way is a cuelist that is one empty cue with a Macro that Releases all Effect/Chase Lists.

    Light the Money.
    Depending on the music/style you may need to make sure you can always light the lead person/s.
    Have one front fixture dedicated for that.
    Give it it's own separate cuelist.
    Cue 1 Keyboard
    Cue 2 Guitarist.
    Cue 3 Singer
    Update it for each band while they are setting up.

    Layer Parameters/Effects
    Example:
    One Cuelist is a bunch of positions.
    Another list is Position Effects, but recorded with E only (Effect Only).
    That way it adds the Effect to the current position.

    Programming Time
    Regardless of how much time your told you'll have on-site,
    plan for about 1/4 that.
    You can pre-program at least 90% of a busking setup on HOG PC.

    Separating Parameters
    When you select some parameters the console automatically selects its associated ones.
    Like Pan and Tilt.
    Gobo and Gobo Rotate (I believe)
    To de-select one parameter, Hold the backspace key while turning the encoder.
    Then set Rotate at say 200 rpm and record to a cuelist (cue 1).
    Go to Cuelist Options and set as IPCB fader.


    So, before your first time can you get some time on a rig?
    Your local rental shop?
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