I needs some tips please.

I have an opportunity to programm a festival coming up and I have a good base knowledge of the hog 3. I recently have been introduced to the concept of busking and creating playbacks for different parameters and being able to play them back at any time rather than trying to think through every cue. My problem is trying to implement this with the hog. Given I will have only 9 or 10 playback faders how do I get all the different parameters that I would like to access on one playback bus. I've seen talk about about virtual playbacks of the forum but what is a virtual play back on the hog where do you access that. For busking certain parameters I thought I heard pallets were a good way to do this or is that not ok. Also is it possible to use play back faders as effect rate modifiers? The festival isn't very complicated about 60 par cans on a down stage truss and 1K2 movers on an upstage. I'm assuming there needs to be different looks for color washes and chase patterns for the par cans but I would like to do some interesting stuff with the movers. Any tips any one has would be helpful I'm new to this forum. I would really like to learn an efficient way to program a busking type of show.
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  • Justin,

    "Main office of the Rental and Staging company I work for"
    I would hope your company let's you learn on the equipment in the off hours.
    If so, then get in there and set this up.
    Or borrow a console and some small movers for the weekend.

    What company and where are you located?

    As for busking...
    I believe you have the busking concept of making parts of parameters available to bring up on the fly.
    Positions, colors, gobos... each individually at the touch of a button.

    So, either you have a lot more hard surfaces like playback wings, or you do what Jon is suggesting and use Virtual cuelists.

    A virtual cuelist is one that is not attached to a fader.
    It is only in the List Pallet.
    Hold Open and press List button, or double tap List.

    (Jon is gonna need to jump in as I don't usually run the console this way...)

    Let's use colors as an example,
    Dial up RED in the Washes.
    Record that to List1 Cue1.
    Let's say you did this on Fader 10.
    Now hold the Choose button above Fader 10 and press the Delete button.
    This removes the Cuelist from Fader 10, but it is in the List pallet as List1.

    If you open the List pallet and make sure the Guard button if off in the top of the pallet, you can then press List1 and it will run that Cue.

    Now imagine a row of Lists of the colors you want to be able to use in the show.

    And rows of Positions, Gobos, Chases...

    Now all 10 Faders are free for the things that only really need faders,
    Intensities
    Gobo Rotate Speed
    Iris Rotate Speed

    How'd I do Jon?
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  • Justin,

    "Main office of the Rental and Staging company I work for"
    I would hope your company let's you learn on the equipment in the off hours.
    If so, then get in there and set this up.
    Or borrow a console and some small movers for the weekend.

    What company and where are you located?

    As for busking...
    I believe you have the busking concept of making parts of parameters available to bring up on the fly.
    Positions, colors, gobos... each individually at the touch of a button.

    So, either you have a lot more hard surfaces like playback wings, or you do what Jon is suggesting and use Virtual cuelists.

    A virtual cuelist is one that is not attached to a fader.
    It is only in the List Pallet.
    Hold Open and press List button, or double tap List.

    (Jon is gonna need to jump in as I don't usually run the console this way...)

    Let's use colors as an example,
    Dial up RED in the Washes.
    Record that to List1 Cue1.
    Let's say you did this on Fader 10.
    Now hold the Choose button above Fader 10 and press the Delete button.
    This removes the Cuelist from Fader 10, but it is in the List pallet as List1.

    If you open the List pallet and make sure the Guard button if off in the top of the pallet, you can then press List1 and it will run that Cue.

    Now imagine a row of Lists of the colors you want to be able to use in the show.

    And rows of Positions, Gobos, Chases...

    Now all 10 Faders are free for the things that only really need faders,
    Intensities
    Gobo Rotate Speed
    Iris Rotate Speed

    How'd I do Jon?
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