Focus Pallette Query

Hi Patch,

It sounds like somehow your cues were recorded with absolute data references instead of references to the focus palette. Can you send a copy of your show file (pre-venue corrected) to cobalt(at)etcconnect(dot)com so we can take a look?

Thanks,

Kirk

Hi Kirk

Do you want me to send it on here? or privately?

Patch

Sorry my bad il email it to the address you wrote

cheers

patch

Presets 16.0 thru 146.0 have been updated to contain absolute data. You wanted to update the Palette instead.
- This is most easily seen by using the Track List: [Track], Select Channels, [Focus] top toggle visibility of Focus parameters.

It looks like you updated the Preset instead of updating the Palette.

Quick summary of the relevant update commands:

[Update]
Update the Preset to reference different palettes, or to absolute data.
- This is the one you used by mistake.

# [Record] & [F/C/B/All]
Update or re-record the specified palette. Does not update the Preset.

{Update Palette} (Softkey under Device)
Update the original Palette(s).
The dialog lists all the palettes that will be updated.
- This is the one you meant to use.

For updating focus palettes, I would suggest using {Focus Mode}, also under "Device". See the Help for more details.

I did update the focus palette before the show started with the new position for Mac 250s, however this didn't update for every cue, hense why for the rest of the show I had to update the fixtures manually?

if that makes sense?

Patch

The Presets 16.0 thru 146.0 contain absolute data, thus they do not use the palette at all.

The Presets 16.0 thru 146.0 contain absolute data, thus they do not use the palette at all.

So what can I do in the future so I don't have to keep updating every cue?

Be sure that the lights are in a pallet!

If you select your Macs, press Focus pallet 1 and they move there and then you move Pan/Tilt it looses the pallet info. so if they moved, re press Focus 1 to bring them back to that position OR update Focus 1 so that they get a new pallet information. or record it as a new pallet.

if you want to know that they are in a pallet you can see that on many places: Designers Summary (Good to see all pallets used for selected lights), direct on the channel in Live if they are expanded, in the Device control dock or in the display over the wheels.

What you are looking for is names and numbers of the pallets. if pan and tilt say 34 and 89 it's no pallet in use. if they say 56 and [text] only tilt have the pallet info and not the pan. if [Pallet text] and [Pallet text] shows the lights is in a pallet.

Focus 1 can of curse be what ever pallet. Just a example with Focus 1.

In track you can also see if you programmed it wrong and there also change to a recorded pallet.

 

Hope you understood my mess...

A Palette reference looks like this in the Device Controls Dock:

Later on, update the Palette, for example:

1. Select Channels
2. Adjust Pan/Tilt
3. {Update Palette}
4. [Modify] to confirm

The dialog looks like this:

Be sure to select all the important channels, or you won't update anything.
You'll get a message "No Palettes to update" if you haven't selected channels that were in palettes.

If you adjust Pan/Tilt and then hit [Update], that will remove the palette reference and makes the values absolute instead.

Absolute values are shown as numbers, so they are easy to spot.