Life after Expression 3...to the Congo we go!

Hello everyone, first post!

I studied lighting in college in the late 90'sand got work in a venue for the last 10 years, pretty much only using the Expression 3. Now our venue is getting a full upgrade and our brand new ETC Congo Jr showed up today.

Well you guys can guess, things have been a bit rusty for me, I got used to the "Yoda" syntax ok, but what tripped me up worst is the lack of a release button. It is second nature to use that in the E3, and I have not yet found an equivalent on the Cjr.

Of course I have a new show to program with only less than a day behind the board, so any tips or tricks would really help me out. I work in a small community venue, so I have relied of my submasters a lot to quickly program lights since we have a new show almost every day with pretty much no turnaround.

My Cjr came with a master playback wing, and dont even get my started on that one...cuz it also works differently than I expected.

Anyways, thanks and any tips and tricks would be awesome.

  • So I can drag tabs across screens? I am currently using a dual monitor setup ( miss the good 'ol "swap" button. ;)

    Nope no inhibitive masters or independent faders. They simply refused tor respond, so finally I restarted the board and then everything worked normally again. 

    I am running V6.

  • Hi Omar -

    Can you send your show file (which I assume you are saving to the hard disk often)? Sarah DOT Clausen AT etcconnect DOT com. There's a command in the browser to save the current show to USB, then you can copy it into an email and send it along.

    And to the tabs, you can move them from screen to screen, but not drag them with a mouse. Swapping the tabs would mean focusing (getting the gold bar/outline around) the tab and then simply using the key combination TAB & Arrow (press and hold TAB and then press the left or right arrow and then let them both go, with two screens it doesn't matter which arrow you choose).

    Are you anywhere near Miami? There's a Congo training session coming up down there that you might find helpful...

    Thanks much -

    Sarah

  • Yes, you can move tabs around however you like:
    [Tab] & [Left/Right] moves them between screens, [Tab] & [Up/Down] unsplits/splits two tabs on screen if there's more than one on a screen.

    "v6" isn't the full version number - the version number is of the form "X.Y.Z.#.#.##" and we need at least the X.Y.Z

    The green arrow appearing/disappearing shows that the channels were being controlled, but your command was being overridden by something else before getting to Live.

    The intensity value (0-100) will be shown in Red if the channel is being Inhibited, and Blue if it's under Exclusive control.
    - v6.0.4 and earlier didn't show this for 0%, hence Sarah's question about the version you're running.

    As you don't think there was an inhibit or exclusive anywhere, the other possibility is that these channels had been Captured by accident.
    - Captured channels will automatically Release on show load or console start.

    If anything is captured you'll see "Capture" at the top of the screens, and the Captured channels have a dark red background in Live.

    Hit [Release] to release the currently-selected channel, or [Release][Release] to release all captured channels.

    [Capture][Capture] toggles the Capturing mode on and off.

     



    [edited by: Richard at 10:28 AM (GMT -6) on Tue, Sep 27 2011]
  • I will not be at my console till later this afternoon, I will update the post with accurate software version and also mail Sarah the show file.

    I would love to attend the Congo workshop, I dont mind traveling for that. Where can I find more info on time/location of said event?

    Thanks again guys. :D

  • The forum thread for the Miami training event Sarah mentioned is here.

  • Thank you Richard, sadly I wont be able to attend, but I would love to attend one at a later date. I would imagine that would be quite a fun workshop.

    My current software version is:

    6.0.4.9.0.82

    I was thinking of upgrading to 6.1 tomorrow.

  • Hi Omar -

    Yes, updating to 6.1 would be a good idea, or you can wait just a little longer as we hope to release 6.1.1 very soon, which solves a couple of things found in 6.1.

    I think you do in fact have an inhibitive master somewhere in your show, and I think it's lurking on a master numbered over 41 (even though you have one wing, you actually have 80 master fields for stuff to get into). Somewhere on Master Page 3 or 4 there's an inhibitive master in the 0 position. If you send me your show I can take a look, or you can look in the Master Pages yourself - they are found in the Browser>Masters>Master Pages.

    Thanks much -

    Sarah

  • Now, lets hypothetically say that one of my collegues went into the board and hypothetically deleted all my presets and sequences.

    I use a USB stick as a back up, if I want to restore the board completely to the most up to date saved state on the stick.

    Do I chose Open or Import option in the browser? And once I do it shows me a whole gamut of options of what I would like to import, what is the correct one?

    Thanks! Did I mention you guys are awesome?

  • If the most up-to-date version is on your stick you choose open.

  • Gotcha, that worked.

    A quick moving light question.

    So selected a template and patched it correctly, my moving device is responding to the "beam" ,"color" and "focus" buttons. I know that pressing the buttons multiple times will allow me to access more functions corresponding that function.

    However oddly, some instruments only give me a fraction of their functions. I will have dimmer and color control, pan and tilt but nothing else.

    Am I missing something? Are there other ways to access additional functions of said instrument?

    I did make sure that the mode the instrument is set in (mode 2) is identical to the mode of the template I downloaded. (Robe ColorMix 575 M2)

     

    So yeah, if any of you plan visiting LDI in Orlando, tell me, I owe all of you dinner. :D



    [edited by: Obienator at 5:18 PM (GMT -6) on Wed, Sep 28 2011]
  • Open will open the entire show file - that's everything you've done after the Welcome screen. Patch, Setup, Presets, Groups, Masters etc etc.
    - The only things this doesn't include are the system options in System Settings.

    Import is for when you want to copy some things from one show file to another - the most common use is when you've got a custom (or customised) Template for some kind of moving light that's not in the standard or extended library - you can use Import to copy that Template from the show file you built it in into your current show.

    Returning to your hypothetical scenario:

    The console automatically stores the previous 9 saves of a given show as .001 thru .009, so if a hypothetical somebody were to accidentally break the show, you can always load the previous save (or go back a few saves) to get it back before they messed with it.

    You can see those if you press the right arrow on the show file name in the Browser, and highlighting them will show the date and time they were saved in the Info area.

  • Hi Omar -

    Regarding your ColorMix fixtures - how did you import the template? Was it from the standard or extended library? Can you send a show file? Is it possible that when you go to the BEAM encoders, that they are sitting on another page (not 1 of #)? What happens when you press the BEAM key a few times?

    Thanks much -

    Sarah

  • Richard said:

    Returning to your hypothetical scenario:

    The console automatically stores the previous 9 saves of a given show as .001 thru .009, so if a hypothetical somebody were to accidentally break the show, you can always load the previous save (or go back a few saves) to get it back before they messed with it.

    Haha as you might as guessed that scenario was not quite a hypothetical, a colleague ( sound guys I tell ya!) went to play around with the board and deleted everything! But problem solved.

    Sarah I mailed you the show file, please be gentle. :P

    So onto more fun......Direct Selects...can they make my life easier when using moving lights?

     



    [edited by: Obienator at 5:20 PM (GMT -6) on Thu, Sep 29 2011]
  • DIrect Selects  are definitely fantastic for moving lights.
    I have Groups, Focus positions , Colours, Gobos , and certain specific setups all on the direct selects. It makes it easy for me to place all or any movers at any position with one button!!

    Use them !!!!

  • A keep in mind that you can put any Palette on any Master....... Great for busking.......

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