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Scroller Madness

Well, I just lost my first attempt at this post into the ether.  Here's my second attempt.

I'm starting to program my first show after installing 1.3.0, and I've got a few questions dealing with scrollers.  Not sure this shouldn't be on a thread somewhere else, but I'm still new to the forum so bear with me...

First, is there a way to edit the text that shows up on the encoder touch screen for the scroller strings?  For example, I don't really need to know that my scroller is in 'skelton exotic sangria', especially since that doesn't all fit in the space available, and it doesn't wrap.  That means I see 'kelton exotic sang' with half the 'k' cut off.  Ultimately, I'd like there to be a way for me to edit what shows up in that space for each frame, and I don't see one so far.  It would be more useful, for me at least, to see a frame number and/or the color number (Fr 30 - R39) instead.

 Also, is there a way to invert the scroller values specifically?  We're using Revolutions with different strings, and one of the strings we've had around forever.  Unfortunately, it's backwards.  The strings were either built backwards, or installed backwards every time they have been used.  On our old O2, this is a quick fix.  Just profile the channel for the scrollers so that full and out are reversed, and that's that.  I'm not finding a similar way to resolve the situation on the Eos.  For programming, I'll just be using color palettes, and I suppose I could just build a new string in the board, not to mention getting the strings reversed physically in the fixtures, but I feel there must be a simple fix in the board for this that I'm not seeing.

 Finally, I discovered this morning that when the manual says "It is recommended that you use the patch by channel display when working with moving lights or other multi-parameter devices."  they ain't kidding.  I spent ten minutes frantically looking through the manual and trying to figure out why I couldn't select a string for the scrollers I was patching.  Apparently, you can only do this in patch by channel view.  You just get an error if you try it in address view.  Not sure if this is a designed behavior, or if I found a bug, but there it is.

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  • I wonder if you could calibrate the scroller backwards?  Also as for labels, I wonder if, in the custom scroll creation area, there is not a custom/blank frame that you could label?

    Patching them-  I learned the same lesson the same way, except it probably took longer than ten minutes.  Being brought up to patch by dimmer it seemed more intuitive to do the same for the scrollers.  I've come to grasp the concept though.  All of your scrollers are Revolutions, but the different srings become different attributes of the Channels.  OK, let's say I accept the concept.

    Hey, isn't there a Swap tab in the Attribute window?  

    Personally, I gave up on using the encoders for scrollers other than for recording Palettes.  The "create your own string on the encoder" feature is super cool but I don't find it very useful if it isn't reflected on the Live screen.  You'd have to call up each channel or group to see what frame it is in.  With Color Palettes and {Show Reference Labels} enabled, you can label them whatever and have them attached to your channels on the Live screen.  (Be sure to have Parameter- Color selected for display.)  It's more work, but as the board stands, I would think that's your best bet.

    Dan Duffy:
    There is currently no way to display the scroller frame label within the channel display, without using Palettes.  It's something we are discussing doing though.

    Enjoy,

    Brent Smith

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  • I wonder if you could calibrate the scroller backwards?  Also as for labels, I wonder if, in the custom scroll creation area, there is not a custom/blank frame that you could label?

    Patching them-  I learned the same lesson the same way, except it probably took longer than ten minutes.  Being brought up to patch by dimmer it seemed more intuitive to do the same for the scrollers.  I've come to grasp the concept though.  All of your scrollers are Revolutions, but the different srings become different attributes of the Channels.  OK, let's say I accept the concept.

    Hey, isn't there a Swap tab in the Attribute window?  

    Personally, I gave up on using the encoders for scrollers other than for recording Palettes.  The "create your own string on the encoder" feature is super cool but I don't find it very useful if it isn't reflected on the Live screen.  You'd have to call up each channel or group to see what frame it is in.  With Color Palettes and {Show Reference Labels} enabled, you can label them whatever and have them attached to your channels on the Live screen.  (Be sure to have Parameter- Color selected for display.)  It's more work, but as the board stands, I would think that's your best bet.

    Dan Duffy:
    There is currently no way to display the scroller frame label within the channel display, without using Palettes.  It's something we are discussing doing though.

    Enjoy,

    Brent Smith

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  • in reply to BSmith

    Calibrating the scrolls backwards could work.  I haven't played with this feature but it sounds like a plausable idea.

    With regards with the swap button, I can only find a swap button for pan + tilt.  I also haven't been able to find a blank/custom frame that you can use to create your own frames with your own labels.

    I'd have to agree with brent smith, and say that CP with referenced labels is the way to go.

    Have fun 

     

     

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