Editing in Blind

I just attended Ion Levels 1 & 2 Training, superbly lead by Louis Malagrino.  One of the key concepts I came away with was that a recorded element that's currently active in Live will be automatically altered when it, or any nested element within, is edited in Blind.  Coming from the Express/Expression world, I found this quite alarming.  However, it's counter to what the manual states on page 7,

"When you edit data in Blind, changes will not automatically appear on stage, since the data you are modifying is not live. This is true even if the record target you are modifying is active on stage. It is possible to play a cue in Live, then switch to Blind and edit that cue in blind without affecting levels on stage."

 Is this a recent change in the software that the manual doesn't reflect?

- Chuck E

  •  I think the truth is somewhere in between: cues don't automatically play back, but editing a running effect in blind will show the changes on stage.  

  • Unlike Expression, Record has no function in blind and modifications immediately affect the recorded level of the cue (or other target, like group, sub, palette, etc).  If you're used to recording in blind, this may seem scary at first, but once you are comfortable with the workflow, you will find it makes programming much faster.  I think conceptually, if you are making a change in blind, there is nothing really to consider as you don't see the result of the change on stage.  The only reason not to record a blind change is a typing or thinking error, and you can use Undo to correct those.

    What the manual refers to, is that you won't see blind changes to the active stage levels even if you are editing the current cue.  This is the same as when working on Expression.  If you make a change to the active cue in Blind, you would have to GoTo Cue Enter to see the changes live.

    HTH,

    Josh

  • but blind editing a sub that's up will show the changes on stage, if i'm not mistaken...

  • In the class, we were shown this phenomenon in two instances: an active sub and an active effect.  In both cases, a blind edit immediately changed the active element.  We were told that if a sub or effect were nested in an active cue, then changes to either would show up immediately in the cue when the sub or effect is edited.  It seems to me the wording in the manual could be a bit more precise.

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