Using EOS NOMAD dongle as Backup Console

I have a question about the new upcoming NOMAD dongle for EOS. I understand that the NOMAD 256 dongle only gives me a 1/2 universe if I use my laptop as the primary console, but what about using my laptop as a backup console to an ION assigned as the primary? Will having a backup console with only 256 outputs restrict the outputs of the primary too?

It's crunch time for me since the Client Kit will be discontinuing soon and the 256 output restriction makes the NOMAD unusable as a portable in-the-house editor.

Thanks!

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0 jselander over 11 years ago

I assume you currently have a Client dongle--In the future we will no longer be selling "Client Kits" as the new part will simply be Nomad 256. A client dongle today will give you the ability to still be a client as before, or be a primary/backup. As for how much it can back up, only 256 outputs. It basically would downgrade the Ion to 256 outputs of total backup.
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0 abctwhite2 over 10 years ago in reply to jselander

Josh, just confirming that the 256 outputs referred to are Channel outputs, not DMX addresses? That's what I've found when I mistakenly set up Nomad as a backup instead of Client to Eos Ti. thanks
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0 ueliriegg over 10 years ago in reply to abctwhite2

No, the number is the amount of DMX addresses being output. You can patch the rest, but they will not have any effect on your rig. Only element consoles have additional channel limitations, all other Eos family consoles are characterized by the DMX output count.
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0 abctwhite2 over 10 years ago in reply to ueliriegg

Just got the message from the Ti: "Patch limit exceeded! Channels 256 and higher will not be output." In a big way it makes more sense to me...who deals with 'half' universes? When I patched an address in my second universe I could bring it up only if the channel number was under 256. Nomad 2.2 is on a Mac, Eos Ti running 2.2 as well.
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0 ueliriegg over 10 years ago in reply to abctwhite2

I claim that's a coincidence. It means that the first 255 channels use 256 addresses and afterwards you're out of addresses, so from channel 256 upwards your out of an output license... Eos will output starting at your channel with your lowest address moving upward until you're out of license. This can happen before 256 if your have movers with low channel numbers or later if you have unpatched channels with low numbers.
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0 ueliriegg over 10 years ago in reply to abctwhite2

I claim that's a coincidence. It means that the first 255 channels use 256 addresses and afterwards you're out of addresses, so from channel 256 upwards your out of an output license... Eos will output starting at your channel with your lowest address moving upward until you're out of license. This can happen before 256 if your have movers with low channel numbers or later if you have unpatched channels with low numbers.
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0 abctwhite2 over 10 years ago in reply to ueliriegg

Wow, Ueli it's truly a coincidence then...I did a count and in fact my channels 1>256 (not all are assigned) indeed use 256 addresses (not in any particular sequential order). So when I'm getting the message "Patch limit exceeded! Channels 256 and higher will not be output." it's not a generic Eos message, it's specific to my rig. Nicely done!
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0 abctwhite2 over 10 years ago in reply to abctwhite2

Sorry, I meant my channels 1>255 use 256 addresses, as you'd described.
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0 abctwhite2 over 10 years ago in reply to abctwhite2

final question on this now that I think I understand. Networked systems tally addresses subject to the Patched Channel order, correct? So in the address limits one could patch across 8 universes successfully as long as the address count doesn't exceed the lowest common denominator of the networked consoles? If addresses are maxed out and you add an address to a low number channel, you will then lose control of an address in the highest channel numbers?
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0 saranow over 10 years ago in reply to abctwhite2

Yes, so far as I understand it this is correct.
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