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Feature request: edit magic sheet while live

I would like the option to put a magic sheet into editing mode while staying in live. I just worked on a commercial using Nomad and I kept trying to create/edit a magic sheet. Editing the magic sheet automatically puts you into blind. The gaffer would call for a light to be on and I would have to go back into live to set the intensity. The problem is that when I re-enter the magic sheet editing mode, it resets what I was working on so it takes twice as long to make the magic sheet.

 

Also, if there is a dialog box open on the magic sheet editor it won't go into live. I found this out the hard way a couple times. The gaffer was calling for a light to be on and I kept hitting [live] and it wouldn't go into live and I couldn't figure out why. I'm going to also post this as a bug.

 

Someone suggested I use another computer to create the magic sheets but I don't want to have to buy another computer and bring it with me just so I can create magic sheets.

 

Gern Trowbridge suggested I use the aRFR to set levels while I'm in blind and this is a good workaround but I don't have that setup yet.

 

I'm not a software engineer but it doesn't seem like it would be that hard to create an option to click the chevron on the magic sheet to put that sheet into edit mode and keep the rest of the console in live.

  • I would definitely get iRFR. it'd great being able to stand next to the DP and Gaffer and set levels. Plus on large sets where you cant see every fixture or the console is in a corner behind a flat it helps immensely. As for your issues I don't seem to be having that problem on any of my desks or my laptop. Magic sheets save as they should when bouncing over to live.

  • The way the structure of the console works, there isn't really a difference between the external keyboard & mouse vs. the internal keypad & touchscreens.  So when you're editing magic sheet objects, the entire UI system is dedicated to that task.  The console can't tell the difference between you typing "10" to change a channel target in a magic sheet, or typing "10" to start selecting a channel.

    I think the aRFR will get you sorted here.  It's quite useful for what you're asking.

  • The rental for 1 day should pay for an aRFR or iRFR. If you have invested into yourself it doesn't stop with the basic setup. An RFR is pretty much essential in any film setting. But to answer your question it can be annoying, but its only 3 mouse clicks to get into live while editing an MS. My suggestion is record a macro to switch back and forth.
  • in reply to Patrick Duffy
    Patrick my new thing is hanging a GoPro in the set to give me a certain FOH look. It works very well when dealing with movers and getting the famous words 'I don't want the mover to hit the actors face'.
  • Thanks Paul for the explanation of why this is the case. It's really easy for me to say "I want it to be this way" but not really understand what's possible and what isn't. And thanks to everyone else for the tips. I got my aRFR working and it's great though I haven't had the opportunity to use it in "real life." As for "great being able to stand next to the DP and Gaffer and set levels", the reason I became a programmer in the first place is so I wouldn't have to be on set next to the DP and gaffer. :p Time to work on being less of an introvert I guess.
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