Channel Order in Effects

Hi there,

I've just been playing around with the desk and started exploring using linear effects to do chase sequences.  very cool - definitely much nicer then step effect!  I have sequence of lights I want to chase.  These are Ch 201>208,  211>218, 221>228 and are recorded as group 10.  I also have the same channels but in the reverse order (228....201) and recorded as grp 20. 

Now, from my understanding from what I read in the manual, if you select channels by using a grp (eg: Group 20) then the effect should be applied to those channels and use the channel ordering from the group.  I am able to get the effect happening on stage going forwards or backwards depending on what order they are selected in.  I then record this into a cue.  When I then go back and run the cue, the effect only wants to go in a forward direction and I see in the channel list in the effects editor has re-ordered itself into numerical order.

Just re-read the section in the manual covering effects and couldn't find anything to help me out.  Not sure if I'm missing something here, but would love to know if I am.  Ideas anyone?  I've tried changing the direction of the effect, but (as far as i can tell) that just plays the sinewave backwards and has nothing to do with channel selection/order.

 I have had the same problem with channel order in other relative effects before, but hasn't really caused too much grief so haven't raised the point.  On a side note, I tried doing the same thing - using the sinewave (as a chase effect) over ch's 91 > 99, and I can only get them to chase in the order 99 > 91?

So yeah, I'm at a loss - would love to hear some thoughts and ideas

 Thanks muchly

 

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  • Hi Brent, I had a whole load of trouble with effect channel ordering in both 1.2 and 1.3 - exactly as you describe. It's even more broken in 1.3 than in 1.2. The workaround I used was to not record the effect into a cue, but to manually apply the effect on top of a cue using a Macro, and have the cue execute the Macro. I believe that this is all fixed and working as we'd expect in 1.4...

    I don't know anything about the sinewave question though. 

     

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  • Hi Brent, I had a whole load of trouble with effect channel ordering in both 1.2 and 1.3 - exactly as you describe. It's even more broken in 1.3 than in 1.2. The workaround I used was to not record the effect into a cue, but to manually apply the effect on top of a cue using a Macro, and have the cue execute the Macro. I believe that this is all fixed and working as we'd expect in 1.4...

    I don't know anything about the sinewave question though. 

     

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  • Yes, the effect channel order defect is fixed in 1.4. The step-based effects do not have this problem because their channel order is stored in the effect, not the cue. For the non-stepbased effects, when you run the effect manually (from the command line or a macro) it always uses the correct channel order. This defect mainly ocurs if you try to rearrange the channel order after you have already recorded that effect or another effect with the same channels into that cue list.
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