Favourite Colours

Am I missing something? Isn't this a job for Color Palettes? We get 1000, so using 50-100 for the most likely doesn't seem unreasonable.

If I understand, if the color is in a palette then it would show up in the "show" tab. I have a list that I keep in a template file, to copy or merge as needed. Being a Palette also makes them really easy to use, shouldn't that be the purpose of a favorites list?

BTW: I'm not fond of 'favorites' unless they really are a list that I control. The Patch list gets over crowded. Just because it was used in a show, and maybe deleted, doesn't make it a fav!

Show colors is also populated from patch. In the Data Base tile, you will see an entry for Gel (near where you set keywords). If you select a channel, click on the gel tile, and from the color picker select the gel you want, that gel populates into Show Colors. This information can also come in from a LW import. And as Dan said, your scroller loads will be there. The primary intent was to give the moving light programmer the conventional palette for the show, to help him/her out building color palettes or if s/he said "make it like the blue in that fixture there"... you'd have an idea of where to start.

Does that make sense?

Anne

I don't find updating the CPs to be an issue, and it does populate the show tab. To each their own, is part of what we love about Eos!

You might like Patrick Boozers solution in a CUE talk: https://www.etcconnect.com/About/Cue/Videos.aspx  He created a fixture profile that has "All" the possible parameters so when he changes the fixture types to start a show he keeps all the info attached to the channel. Apparently that is a lot more than a few palettes!

I use a modified version of what Patrick does - instead of using absolute data for my reference channel, I use the stock colors (e.g. 5/00, 3/201). When doing a "copy to" or "recall from" with these it doesn't matter what the color parameters are in the target channel the data will still transfer. It's a crapshoot for how good the color match is (better with 2.3!), but it allows fixtures that are calibrated to get that much closer.

I agree with the need for this, and let me explain how my experience is not solved by any of the above suggestions. This is from a TV/Film perspective, so perhaps a little more on the fly than some other productions. We will have a DP ask for this gel, and then another, "how about this red, how about this blue, how about cyan 90?" etc. and then he'll say, "go back to that red" if i'm not really on my toes and keeping track, I will be caught with my pants down and have to try to figure it out. If I could either manually add these colors to a favorites list or if they would auto-populate like the favorite fixtures do in patch, that would be ideal. If the favorites could have a sub-folders that I could move stuff to and re-name per fixture or set, etc. that would be a nice bonus. Hope no one minds me resurrecting this thread.

-Jeremy

Hey Jeremy,

I will readily admit I don't come from that TV/Film perspective, so I'm curious - when the DP calls for a color, are you digging through the Gel library/picker to find that color?  Or do you already translate "Lee 201" from the DP as Color 3/201 on the command line?

I wonder if a mashup of Gel picker, Color Palettes, and the updated Direct Selects could help here.  For starters, if you already know that when the DP says "red" he is looking for "Lee 106", then you can just put that on the Command Line instead of trying to save it somewhere - Chan x Color 3/106.

On the other hand, if you're making modifications ("I want Lee 106, but can you add some blue to it?"), obviously you want to save that modification - and a Color Palette is the great way to do that.  

You can make a Macro to say "Record Color Palette Next Label".  This will add a Color Palette after the Highest # you have recorded, and put the keyboard up on the screen to name the new CP ("Lee 106 w/Blue").  I would make a CP 800 as a place holder.  Then, each time I make a "new" color I want to keep somewhere, I hit the Macro button and give the newly-created CP a name (L106+Blue).  The console puts it in the next-highest whole number (801, 802, ...) with that name attached so I can remember what the CP actually looks like.

To run with this, I would open a Direct Selects tab with two Banks.  I'd make the first Bank Custom and add my Macro button there.  I'd make the Second bank Color Palettes, and activate Flexi.  That way, as I add new Color Palettes, I see them added to the Direct Selects:

So when I'm asked for a color again, I just select the channels, then tap that DS button to get it called up.  If it looks good on one light, I can [Color] [Recall From] [Chan] x onto the other lights that want it.  And if I want to make more modification to the color, I can either re-save it, or just make a new Color Palette and write out what's different in it's name ("L106+blue+lighter")

The Direct Selects are also nice to use because the window they're in is more flexible than the Color/Gel picker.  Once you have a set of colors for a show you think you'll use often, you can put them on a Custom Direct Select to make it more apparent which ones you normally use.