Element - problem with using submasters with S4 Luster 2 LEDS

Question

I'm running an element 60-500 with software version 2.2.1 and a mix of S4 conventional fixtures and S4 Luster 2 LED fixtures. I can program LED fixtures into submasters with color palettes and levels and each sub will work properly. When I have one sub up and bring up another sub from 0 to even 01, the first sub loses it's color setting and goes to full white. I can push the bump button on the other sub and the first sub will return to normal. Both subs will then work properly as long as the second sub is not set back to 0 and then raised again. I've set the subs to I-master. I'm trying to use the subs to build looks, so need to use them together. I've got a home Q that initializes everything, including the color parameters, to 0. Is there a way to eliminate this problem. 
 
 Thanks, 
 Pete Dursin - ME - City of Bowie, Md.

Henry Dursin · Accepted Answer

Thanks for all of the help and suggestions. I think that I understand why I'm having this problem now. I'll change my set up procedure and see what that does.

BrianH · Answer

So I ran into this sort of weirdness a good bit when I would want to create submasters to do whatever. When you just say record without specifying a channel list, it captures all values that are manual (and I think that are just active from a cue or whatever) into the submaster. So it'd get colors and such as well. It's basically pulling the state of whatever is active into the submaster. 
 
What you might try instead when you record the sub masters is the following: 
chan 1 thru 10 Record Sub 3 Enter 
 
Replacing "chan 1 thru 10" with whatever channel list you might need of course. It should then only record the selected channel lists information into the submaster this way and not record hard "zeroed out white values" for color. It sounds like when you are recording your sub, it's taking the white "zero" values that are active from the cue and recording them into the sub master. So then when you pull up the later of the two subs (LTP) it over rides the first subs color information since all the channels were recorded into both subs.