Randomized Effect Steps

Hi Brent,

 Can you elaborate on what you are trying to achieve. As far as I am aware Random Group should run your steps in completely random order. I have a couple of effects on our current show which work fine like this, and have just created a new one from scratch to test the theory. Random Rate doesn't seem to be an option in Step Based effects anyway. What are your other Effect settings?? Maybe these are affecting it in some way...

Graham,

I have 30 steps of individual, discrete lights.  I want those steps to be run in a random order.

Random Group seems to select anywhere from one to five of those steps at a time.  In addition, the In/Dwell/Outs don't seem to be what I program.

It is a real drag to program fake randomness, but I really want the steps I create to happen one at a time in random order. this is pretty standard on other conventional boards, including ETC.

Thanks again

Hi Brent

My current show has quite a few step effects, with a few of those being random.  Just as Graham did, I just went and made a new step effect from scratch and put it in random group and all seemed to work fine.

One thing i did find however, is one random step effect which wasn't behaving properly.  Only one or two chans out of 24 would flash - the reason for this being the step time was shorter than the in/dwell/out times (ie step time was 0, dwell time was 0.1). As a result, the effect didn't quite work the way I was hoping.  Could a similar situation possibly be causing the problems with your random effect?

All the best - cheers 

Hi Brent

My current show has quite a few step effects, with a few of those being random.  Just as Graham did, I just went and made a new step effect from scratch and put it in random group and all seemed to work fine.

One thing i did find however, is one random step effect which wasn't behaving properly.  Only one or two chans out of 24 would flash - the reason for this being the step time was shorter than the in/dwell/out times (ie step time was 0, dwell time was 0.1). As a result, the effect didn't quite work the way I was hoping.  Could a similar situation possibly be causing the problems with your random effect?

All the best - cheers 

Brent and Graham,

Thanks for helping sort this out before I made a total jerk of myself.  Turns out you are both right, but I still have my problem.  It's just not what I thought it was.  Here's my new interpretation of events;

I have thirty lights in a chase effect.  I have 0's for the In's, short dwells, and longer decays.  I have the Step times shorter that the duration of in/dwell/out.  Without Random Group, it looks like a snake of light on the floor.  When I add Random Group, the steps soon seem to clump together, with groups of channels working in sync.  Today, I tried the Freeze key, then the Data key.  What I found everytime was groups of consecutive channels in various stages of fade.  In my mind, I think that I should see groups of nonconsecutive  channels in various stages of fade.

Try this for me and tell me what you think.  I could be misunderstanding something.

Step Times 0.2, In time 0, Dwell 0.2,  Decay time 0.7.

PS. To what does the "Group" in Random Group refer.

Thanks again,