Effect on submaster

My method is to list the channels, select Effect XX, so run the effect. Then record to a sub. Then do a Sub, Sub and change that sub to an effect sub. Then a Go to cue out to clear the running effect. Never had a problem

Hi
I worked also like this. But what now happens is.
When I change the "MODE" of the sub on screen in the tap.
the MODE first changes to ADDITIVE, than I have to enter and can change the mode bij tapping again to Effect.
Than It changes to effect and the up and down time changes to effect. The effect that was connected is not there anymore.

when I use the {MODE} softkey the sub changes to effect and but the up and down time stay 0 and the effect that was saved in the sub stay's.

So why is there a difference?
Is it possible to put effect timing when using the {MODE} softkey.