How-to organize a show for a concert?

Hello there,

I mostly work for any kind of theatre performances but lately I'm trying to study how to make concerts, so I trying to set up my Ion to work as fast as I can when I come up to a stage.

I'm looking for a how-to - document - video - discussion where I can get some hints on how to organize the basic show.

Focus Palette? Subs? Presets? When should I use one and when the other? Do I have to design a form with Ml and record them in a presets? or in a palette? or maybe in a sub?

I'm getting crazy :) Any help would make me very happy

 

Thank you in advance

Valerio

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  • Hi Valerio
    If I understand you're position, you own your own Ion console, and you hire yourself (and console) out to different companies to light their theatre plays/performance, and now you're moving into music concerts. and by that I assume you mean "not a classical open white symphony " concert.

    Are you looking to pre-build data for the show, or just wondering how to operate such a show?

    I'm a house Lighting Op. I have an Ion in each venue with 80 or 100 fader handles. Each console has the house show file, with patch and subs pre-built. For ease of building a show (typically one night, no rehearsal), I also have Intensity Palettes (for consistency for clients when we have different lighting operators), Focus Palettes (Conductor, Solo, Guitar, Vox, Drums, Bass, Percussion, Back Vox, etc.), Colour Palettes, Presets (combinations of Focus and Intensity Palettes), and effects (Colour, Intensity Chase, Focus (moving head effects)). All palettes need to be updated once the stage is set, with their true position.

    In your case (travelling with the console to new venue each night) I don't know how to make it work for you. Most data is associated with the Patch. If a lamp type is not patched, things that reference it won't exist. ( by type colour palettes can't be "by-type" if there is no "type." Pre-built focus points won't help, because the lights and positions will change each day and venue.

    You can pre-build blanks and label them (so FP for the standard different positions; Presets for the standard different positions, with every intensity at Full (or 80 or whatever), and you can update everything as you go through.) this would only save you creating and labeling the palettes.

    For operating such a show, I do everything on subs, but I know I need to start building (Short) cue stacks to do 1 or 2 simple things (cue list 2 is blue colour event, cue list 3 is a red colour event, each cue list only has 3 cues). Put these on three different playback handles for easy access.

    My submasters will be Intensity levels on all performers, colour washes, gobo washes.

    I will add effect chases and movements to sub handles for live control (sub handle 1 will be a LED colour chase, Sub 2 will be an intensity chase, subs 5, 6, 7 will be I-Q movement chases).

    Is that the information you're looking for?
    email me privately and we can discuss further

    Andrew Riter
    Andrew [dot] riter [at] ubc [dot] ca
  • You may want to watch this video and see if it gives you any ideas: Master Class - "Live Music Programming for Eos"  It is about a hour long.

    www.youtube.com/watch 

     
    Streamed live on Jun 27, 2015

    Presented by Patrick Boozer, Lighting Designer/Programmer



    Added info on video.
    [edited by: Salazar at 11:44 AM (GMT -6) on Fri, Dec 16 2016]
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