Faders Effects config HOWTO

Hello to everyone. I've a question that's driving me crazy. Yesterday I was making light for a small performance and my idea was to assign a small effect to a PVC to simulate kind of fire. I've created to effect assigned to a group of lights but I didnt find a way to assign that effect to a fader to be able to change, on live, the  intensity and the rate of it. 

I dont find any part of the manual and of the youtube videos where they explain how to do it. 

Any advice? Thank you!

 

There are many things about the fader config I hardly understend. I've same problems with the macro syntax. For instance, how to create a macro to stop the entry and exit effect wexit time set to 5sec?

 

Valerio

 

  • Faders Effects config HOWTO

     

    It's a little outdated but "Effects on Submasters" on p.254 of the Ion manual will help you.

     

    Effects on Submasters

    Channels running effects can be loaded onto a submaster. Pressing the bump button of the

    submaster starts or stops the effect.

    For the submaster to control the rate and/or size of the effect, it must be configured as an effects

    submaster. When a submaster is defined as effect, only the effect information is stored. The slider

    will then have control of the in and out behavior of the effect.

    If the submaster is set to additive, the slider will control non-effect values only.

    Recording an Effect to a Submaster

    To apply an existing effect, press:

    • [Select Channels] [Effect] [x] [Enter]

    Recording to a submaster, press:

    • [SELECT LAST] [Record] [Sub] [x] [Enter]

    Configuring an Effect Submaster

    To configure an effect submaster in live, press:

    • [Sub] [x] {Mode} {Properties} [Enter]

    Or bring up the Submasters tab.

    Now click "Effect" in the Mode column.

    Running an Effect from a Submaster

    The way effects are played back from a submaster depends on its mode, and whether the

    submaster is set to be a proportional fader or an intensity master.

    Below is an example of four different submasters, in different modes, with the same effect stored to

    them.

    Effect on an Additive/Proportional Submaster

    The submaster contains the intensity, pan/tilt data, along with the effect. Pressing the bump

    button starts the effect. The fader controls values not affected by the effect. Pressing the

    bump button again stops the effect.

    Effect on an Additive/Intensity Master Submaster

    Pressing the bump button marks the lights, and starts the effect. The fader brings up any

    intensities stored in the submaster. Pressing the bump button again stops the effect.

    Effect on an Effect/Proportional Submaster

    Pressing the bump button starts the effect. The fader controls the rate and/or size based on

    the effect’s entry behavior. Pressing the bump button again stops the effect.

    Effect on an Effect/Intensity Master Submaster

    Pressing the bump button starts the effect. The fader controls the rate and/or size based on

    the effect’s entry behavior. Pressing the bump button again stops the effect.

    In other words, there is no difference between a proportional fader and an intensity master when

    the submaster is configured to be an effect submaster.

    N o t e : The {Mode} softkey toggles between inhibitive, effectsub, and additive. Press

    {Mode} until effectsub is on the command line.

     

    Fader Config

    Click on the gray bar at the top of the fader. Under "target", click "sub". Under "ID", choose your sub number.

    Under "size", click "2x". Click on the fader icon to the right and assign it to "Effect Rate." (The one on the left should be "master.")

     

    Macros

    If you want help with your macros, you need to rephrase the last sentence in a way that I can understand it.



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    [edited by: John728 at 2:18 AM (GMT -5) on Thu, Jun 29 2017]
  • Thank you so much !
    I'll try it immediatly!

    About macros, sorry for mistakes in my sentences.
    I wanted to say:
    I want to create a Macro that stop a running effect in 5 seconds.

    I guess that syntax should be something like: Effect_edit Stop_And_Fade Exit_TIme 5 <enter>
    Am I wrong?
  • In the manual it says

    Recording to a submaster, press:

    [Record] [Sub] [x] [Enter]

    It should be

    [select last][Record] [Sub] [x] [Enter]

    so you don't record a bunch of extra stuff into your sub

  • valeriocontini said:


    About macros, sorry for mistakes in my sentences.
    I wanted to say:
    I want to create a Macro that stop a running effect in 5 seconds.

    I guess that syntax should be something like: Effect_edit Stop_And_Fade Exit_TIme 5 <enter>
    Am I wrong?
     

    The fastest way is to learn a macro using the [learn] key. But it would look like this:

    Blind Effect Enter

    Effect x Exit 1 ExitTime 5 Enter

    Live Enter

  • Effects on subs are very much improved in 2.6 which is due for release in the coming months.
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