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    Cory Sprenkle
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Trouble making new cues with moving heads on the ion

I have tried several times to create cues with the moving lights in them and I have had no luck.  To make it simple to understand what I am having problems with...

I recorded cue 1 with the moving heads in a certain spot.  I recorded cue 2 with those same moving heads in another spot and so on... up to about cue 5...  I also changed the color for a couple of the cues.

 Then I set all my movers to their home position.  When I play cue 1 they all go to one position (not one assigned by me).  And they stay at that position.  I cannot get it to automatically go to the next cue either.  Even when I goto one of the other cues manually, it goes to this same position...  The color also stays white for all of them.

I don;t know where it has gotten this preset position.  Before I made my cues, I was sure to stop any cues, make sure all my faders are down, and also select everything and manually set everything to zero. 

It seems to me that there is something in the back ground I am not seeing.  Please help.

I also wanted to add that I have no problems making cues for scenes that do not involve the movers.

Thanks,

Cory

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  • I'm probably too new to the ion to even try fielding questions, but I'm going to try anyway!

     It sounds like there's manual data over-riding your cues. I'm guessing that when you put the lights in their home position, these channels are captured there and will stay there until you release them. [Sneak][enter] will release all captured channels. [channel]n[sneak][enter] or [sub]n[sneak][enter] or [group]n[sneak][enter] will only release specific channels or subs or groups.

     Let me know if this is it!

    Ron

  • in reply to easyice
    Also, maybe it's a HTP vs. LTP thing. Typically, you want Non-intensity parameters to be LTP. This could be why your home position is taking precedence over your cues, or why they may be showing up in weird positons (home has the highest x value, and the cue has highest y value, so they end up in a position that is a combination of the two).
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  • in reply to easyice
    Also, maybe it's a HTP vs. LTP thing. Typically, you want Non-intensity parameters to be LTP. This could be why your home position is taking precedence over your cues, or why they may be showing up in weird positons (home has the highest x value, and the cue has highest y value, so they end up in a position that is a combination of the two).
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  • in reply to easyice

    Go to blind and take a look at your cue data.  It's easiest to see this in spreadsheet mode.  You access this by pressing the Format key until you see a list of channels horizontally and cues vertically.  Because spreadsheet defaults to only intensity, you'll want to expand to show yours NPs, but holding down the [Data] key and pressing the [Focus], [Color] and [Shutter, Image, Form] encoder paging keys.

    Are you seeing "blue" values for each of the lights in each cue?  If so, then you did, in fact, store move instructions for those lights.  Go back to Live.  Press [Go to cue] [Out] [Enter] - this will reset all of your lights to the home position.   Press the Go button to run cue 1.  You should be seeing the lights go to the positions stored in cue 1.

    If you have any channels selected at the point of cue execution, those channels will not respond to "go".  We assume you are working with those lights and so hold them out of the command.  Just as another note, all non-intensity parameters are LTP, all the time.   The HTP/LTP settings for both cue lists and submasters applies only to intensity.  

    If you still aren't getting what you want, drop me the show file (you can send an email directly from this forum post).  If you can tell me what you are expecting to see, I'll look at the file to see what I'd expect to see based on what's stored.

    Thanks!

    a 

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