I need a fixture profile for a generic chinese mover.

Hello,

The manual denotes a 13 ch mode, so this is likely how we would have to make the profile.
I have submitted your request with a needed by date two weeks out from now since none was specified.

Thank you,

Hi,

I've documented below how you can create the profile for the light yourself if you cant wait for ETC to create it for you. Its actually quite simple to do.

Go into Patch and pick a channel
Click Type
Click Manufacturer
Choose Generic IRGBW as starting point, pick 8 Bit when it asks
Click Favorites
Click Edit
Highlight the IRGBW and click Copy

Now click edit and you can edit the setup of the lamp to match the manual for the light.

Your lamp has channel 4 as Intensity so change the DMX column to 4 on that line and
then Red … White to 6,7,8,9

Now we need to add the pan and tilt so click New and it will add a new line which defaults to Pan the first time and DMX is 1 which we want, click on the 8Bit in the Size and it will change to 16Bit and let you key in the fine pan DMX into the LDMX column, your manual says you want 11 for that value.

Now repeat this pressing New and it will add Tilt, this is DMX 2 in your manual and it guessed right so change to 16Bit and key in 12 as LDMX

We now need to setup the remaining slightly weirder channels and this is where the fun may start as from experience these unbranded chineese lamps are often documented wrong, so I’ve also found the easiest is to patch those as some easy to play with parameter, I just use Barndoor 1, Barndoor 2, Barndoor3 etc until I really know what they do and then I can fire up the light and the ML Controls, just change the values around until I know whats what. (once I’m happy I can change them to a more appropriately named parameter if I want, and set the home value)

So to do this we click New, which will add a height parameter, click on that and pick Barndoor1 instead, the desk has picked 3 as the DMX number which is what we want.

So now repeat that for Barndoor2, Barndoor3 and Barndoor4 and we are done, click the Return button twice to get out of this screen.

Now patch the lamp to use the Copy of the IRGBW we created (you could have edited the label for the copy as well to make it tidy for the future) and fire up the ML tab.

You should now be able to control the lamp. I think from your manual you need Channel 3 (Barndoor 1) at max to get the lamp on, Channel 5 (Barn2) at max to get it in full RGBW, Channel 10 (Barn3) at zero and Channel 13 (Barn4) probably at full. (if this is all correct then you should back in the patch edit dialogue set the home value of those channels as 255 for the ones that need to be full, you can also set the range for pan and tilt so they are in degree by clicking on the ranges column in the fixture profile).

Hope that helps if you need the setup before ETC can create one for you or if you have another light that’s not in the library.

Thank you!

Mike,

Thank you so much! I could wait two weeks, but this is something I want to know how to do myself. Besides, the way things are going, this very likely will not be my last run in with generic Chinese fixtures.

Mike (or anybody for that matter),
I'm curious about the Pan/Tilt LDMX channels. I've always thought that typically DMX/LDMX channels are together, i.e. Pan DMX/LDMX would be channels 1&2. Tilt DMX/LDMX would be channels 2&3 or any other set running numerically in order. Is this not true?
I had a Chinese fixture that the documentation said Pan DMX/LDMX was channels 1&3, Tilt DMX/LDMX was channels 2&4...this NO WORKIE!!! It was actually; pan 1&2, tilt 3&4.
I've never seen it not numerically in order...am I wrong?
I'm suspicious of the 1&11/2&12 combination for your fixture!

You may be right, the accuracy of the manuals for the unbranded Chinese fixtures I've come across is somewhat random, often they include the wrong manual or the firmware is different so that could be the case with these.

Whilst it is usual to have the fine tilt on the channel after the coarse tilt there is no trequirement for them to be (and maybe if the light has a mode where its a smaller number of channels they loose the fine channels if they are high channels).

In my current rig 3 of the 4 Chinese fixtures have the channels together (ie Pan 1/2, TIlt 3/4 or Pan 10/11 Tilt 12/13) and one of them has a split Pan 1/12, Tilt 2/13 so the manual might be right (that fixture does happen to be an RGBW Led similar to the one requested, although most of the channels are shifted one along from those of the requested one)

Yes, this really exists, pan 1&3, tilt 2&4...

Good news! This fixture layout is already in the library as Flash Butrym – MH 108x3W RGBW Stg.


Thank you,