How to Overlap Ques

Eos-family consoles (of which Ion is a part) are what's called Move-Fade consoles. that means a channel only gets moved by a cues if this cue has a move instruction for it (move in the sense of change, not limited to actual moves like pan or tilt).

this means that the behaviour you're looking for is the Ion's default. you run the first cue with a time of 4 minutes. while this cue is still fading you run other cues. as long as those cues don't have new instructions for the channels that are moving slowly because of cue 4 then cue 4 just slowly continues.

if you want to break this default behhaviour, e.g. to make sure that the blackout at the end of the songs really kills all lights even if the 4 minute fade is still going on (e.g. the band wanted to go for a beer urgently and cut a verse hence the song was shorter), you can choose to have a specific cue to behave differently: set an Assert flag for this cue: Cue 7 Assert Enter. in the PSD thiss will show up with an A in the columns where you have all sorts of funny letters (M, B, A, P, MV, AF, R).

I think this answers my question. If I understand correctly you are saying that if I have lights 1-3 go to 100% over the span of 4 minutes, but after 5 seconds I have lights 7 and 8 go to 30% as I am programming the next cue for 7 and 8 I should leave 1-3 at 100 percent and the light board will just know?

I.e., 1 thru 3 at full record cue 1
and then for the next 1 thru 3 are left at full and you record
7 + 8 at 30 record cue 2

Let me know if I am getting it and thank you for answering my question so quickly,
Jacob

Do you want the cue to fade in or out over the 4 min? Then when you record the cue 1thru3@full record cue 1 time 4:00 enter for fade in and if it is a fade out you need then record cue 1 time time 4:00 enter. This will give you a default fade in time (5sec is default) and then a fade out time of 4:00 otherwise known as a split fade time.
I am only beginning my journey on the etc gear too. I have found the ETC video library on YouTube to be a great resource. And you can find that and other training materials in the root directory of this forum too.

Hope I got all this right
Regards
Geoff

Hi Geoff,

Thank you for your response. I just gave an example of what I was trying to do. The end goal is a light show, so it will vary between the two, but I think if I set one thing to 100 the next cue will activate it, so I don't know. I am typing this with out the board in front of me, so I can message back when I have given it a shot.

Jacob

Try downloading the Nomad software onto your computer. It is the same software that drives the ion and you can try stuff and if you also get the training files from this page www.etcconnect.com/support.tutorialseries.aspx you can try it out at home when you have then chance. It has a visulizer file that will work but you will need to use the patch file for the set up (musical 2 I think it is). Google TBT (tea break tutorials) ion and they are also good.

This worked! The one thing I don't get is how to tell the board when you are 30 seconds into the cue automatically start the next cue any ideas?

Good suggestion the advice above worked in there. The only question I have is how to make it so when the cue is x seconds in to automatically start the next cue. I know there is a way when the cue ends, but I don't know how to set the time.

You can set follow on a cue and put in the time and after that time it goes to the next cue. Follow should be a soft key on the LCD display or you can get at it by clicking in the Fg/Hg column on the bit of screen showing the cue.

I dont want to confuse you but where you are probably going with this, cue lists are what you use, they allow you to have a main cue list that you hit GO and it moves through but then you can load another cue list on a fader and run that independently, so you might put a sequence of things on that other fader and then run it as you need. It's kind of an easier to understand way of doing effects than using the effects stuff, which can take a lot of trial and error to get it perfect and isn't someting more to learn, as its just the same as the sequence of cues that you are using on the GO button.

Thanks I’ll check it out. I know you can program cue lists onto the faded wing. They do this at concerts so if the band changes the set it doesn’t mess anything up, but right now I’m just working my way through one song. I love how this light board is like photoshop, you think you have mastered it, but there are still thousands of features to learn.

Jacob

Yes you can use cue lists like that and then load them to the master fader so GO works (or run them from separate faders but you then have to rember to press the button under thecirrect fader to do the go) and at the same time have cue lists that you are overlaying the song with to run complex effects. It's really very flexible.