LED Submaster Mixing

I think I am still disagreeing that you cant mix L102 and L181 on the single fixture.

If the fader is set proportional then putting the second fader to 50% results in each of the RGB channels having the average of the RGB from the two gels. It doesn't snap.

I made this question because one week ago, while working in the small hall, the "light technician" of a theatre for kids, told me to put into subs (because they don't have cues or similar, they wanted to mix manually with subs.): a day light, a evening light, a night and one morning. He just wanted to work in the simplest way possible.
Some of the subs contains blue, and here is the problem.
Sometimes I used the led light as channels, and of course, it works. I loose the color picker, no problem. But if this were with movers, all will be more complicated to use as channels.
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No worries.
I've had 3 large road shows come through since we upgraded our Console / LED fixtures, and each one had difficulty working with the LEDs. People just aren't used to the way they react. They think they can do everything all at once.

All the other NPs make sense when you have them be one thing or the other. You don't want those things to blend.
Colour is a thing we in theatre like to mix.
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But it really does mix colours if you set the sub to proportional.   You may get into debates as to whether you like the mixing (additive/subtractive/average) but it certainly mixes.  

But you have to treat the fader as I said in an earlier post more like the Tbar fader on a video desk where 50% up will mean equal contributions of colour from the two sources and 100% up with mean all from that sub.

In reply to sanfe earlier comment "Sometimes I used the led light as channels, and of course, it works. I loose the color picker, no problem. But if this were with movers, all will be more complicated to use as channels."  he absolutely does not have to make the channels to do RGB mixing,  that as everyone has said earlier can be done by assigning the Red to one sub, the Green to another and the Blue to another,  just making sure you dont set a value for the other two colors in each sub.

It just hit me.
The fatal flaw in my argument is that I was advised to get into the habit of using Palettes. and Colour Palettes do not react the same way as absolute values.

Don't they? (In respect to mixing with subs?)

I'm at home on my Nomad, and I was shocked to see Mike was 100% correct in what he said.
Then I realised I ALWAYS used colour palettes for mixing, so I tried that and I can't be totally sure, because switching data views goes from palette name to gel name, not percentages. (What did I miss there?)

I'm just really flummoxed at the moment because I can't say why my colours all snap, I just know that they do even though you all say what happens is impossible.

Yes if you are running it without the lights it does have a slightly confusing display, on the channel table as you move the second fader up it changes the label to the colour pallet or gel code immediatlety. Pressing control D to display the data seems to show the data, although I've not tried a colour pallet, containing a gel name to see what that does.

Interestingly moving the slider down seems to cause it display the actual values unless at zero or 100%.

If you setup your screen with the channel table, colour picker and faders all on the same view, you can see it tracking the colours in the colour picker xy display as you move the faders

The method that I use for submaster mixing of LED fixtures is to copy the fixture definition and change the home values of all the colors from 255 to 0 in the copied definition and the home value of intensity to full.

Then you record filtered subs for your Red; Green; and Blue (And others like Amber or UV depending upon the fixture)

That complicates a few things like the color picker and really shakes of the color engine and I'd never do this for a fully cued show, but for uncued shows like choir concerts, I really like it.

I think all we are in agreement that:

1.we can store one parameter into each sub to mix.

2.we can mix scenes with some parameters into each sub, but not like old school, but yes as Mike tells.

3.Here is people that work in diferents areas, like bursk, concerts, theatre, broadcast... diferents kind of works. Meaby the solutions aren't for all.

3. So, i request that it should be easier to change the sub mode LTP to HTP. Into the sub options, but this never worked as expect. xD

Thanks all!