using the RVI as a slave function?

Just to be clear on what is being mirrored-currently only the command line and live/blind states. If you are at the Ion console, you will not be able to page up or down for the RVI. You are able to select a channel from the Ion and that will change the page on the RVI, but as of right now there is no true mirror mode like the Obsession consoles had. I believe this feature will be available sometime next year with the 1.5 release.

It seems like the console and RVI are already both in User 1 already if they are typing commands into your cmd line--You could always lock the RVI so they were not allowed to type any commands--Hold down Clear and hit Escape. This locks the RVI from inputting commands. Your other option would be to set the Tech Table up as a different user than that of the Ion.

 How do other users out there deal with this issue??

I almost invariably set up as two different users.  I do a lot of clean up work behind the scenes while design staff do their scheming.  As the same user, they often find it disconcerting to see the screens flashing around to Blind or Patch, or whatever.  I show them a couple of buttons to navigate the Live screen with and I don't have to listen to Page Up, Page Down all day.

in setting it up as two users, are you then looking at the same changes being made? For instance, if the designer wants to go into blind and then edit the intensities on channels 6-8, when I do those keystrokes, will he be able to see the old intensity in blind was 40% and the new intensity I just typed in if 80%? Or will they be stranded in the live function unless I were to enable their keyboard/facepanel buttons? Essentially, I want to lock them out from changing anything on my board, but be able to see everything they are asking for as it is happening....I wouldn't mind the page up, page down all day, haven't found a way that my page up or page down will actually affect the channel view out there!

Hi all... well, there are a number of thoughts here.  So, we'll take them one by one....

First, multi-user. 

Currently, if you set two desks up as the same user, they share modes and command lines, but not views.  So, if you are the programmer (U1) and I'm the designer (U1), as you change from live to blind, my displays will follow, but I'll have my own formats, flexi views and paging controls.    We do not yet have (but are working on) a true "mirror" mode.  When that feature is completed (no ETA yet, but soon), if you and I are the same user, we share command lines, operating modes, formats, etc.  If you change the way the data is viewed, that will be shown on my displays.  For many designers, this will be the preferred mode of operating.  Having said that -- a lot of them like seeing the command line, but having their own data views - that's why we will continue to do both.   When mirror mode is implemented, if you don't want them to have access to the data, disable all of the buttons on the front of the RVI (except the soon to be available "Mirror" button and don't let them have a keyboard :-) (hold on.... there's more on this in a bit!)

If we set my device up as U2, we are completely autonomous from one another.  I have my own command line, etc.  

Right now, to prohibit access to channels, you can user "Partitioned Control."  This (which is related to but separate from multi-user) allows all users to be in a different partition, allowing access to specified channels (this is user-based, not device base - so if user 1 is in Partition 1.... all devices that are "User 1" will be in the same partition).  There are four default partitions.  (0 = no channels), (1 = all channels), (2 =conventionals ... as derived from patch) and (3 = Moving lights .... as derived from patch... or maybe it the other way round... can't remember).  Anyway!  You can edit those or create your own as needed.  When you turn partitioned control on the very first time, by default everybody is in Partition 0.  Once you select a partition, if Partitioned control is turned off and then on again, that partition is remembered.

Partition 0 lets you look at everything, but have no channel access in live or blind.   So far so good?  

Outstanding.  So, what you are really looking for is "mirror mode" (soon) plus another feature called security log in.  Security log in (when we implement it) will allow a controlled level of access to playback and editing functions.   This is device, not user, specific. So, Mirror Mode and Security Log in will get you exactly what you want.   We aren't quite there yet.  But maybe this helps explain what you can do now.... and what you'll be able to do when these other two features are implemented.

Thanks much!   

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