Recall function and recording it into a new cue

If I use recall from none-intensity parameters from a cue yy and record them into cue ww, then when I delete cue yy does cue ww not have those parameters saved? Does the record function record the recall from command rather than the parameters?

Background:
One of my students was writing base/basic cues during a rehearsal. Then the next day, she started writing her cues and would use the recall from function to get focus, color, etc. After she was done cuing, she was cleaning up her cue stack, and she deleted the base cues that the recall from function was referencing. I don't know why she deleted the base cues, I didn't teach her to do it but students are students. During final dress, she ran into issues with her movers being "locked" in non-intensity parameters in the show cues. She realized the only thing different between the two runs was that she had deleted those base cues, so she restored the base cues and everything worked fine. The next day she asked me the question I pose to you all because I couldn't figure out why the record function would record the recall function rather than the parameters themselves as if I had entered them and then recorded the new cue.

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  • No, recall from doesn't create a "link", it grabs the values.

    I bet you're working in tracking mode. Have a look at the top left corner of your Live tabs. Does it say Tracking?

    When you're sitting in a cue and look at values, note the color of the font. Some of the numbers you see are written in magenta. Those are tracked values. That means that this cue has no hard values there but rather knows that it should keep doing what it was doing before. Think of those values as transparent, or as "dito".

    Stuff that's written in blue and green is called Move Instruction. It's the opposite of a tracked value. Those are actual values written in the cues. All tracked values take their information from a move instruction that happened previously.

    When you delete a cue while in tracking mode and you delete blue and green values, the tracked values have no source anymore. They knew they need to keep doing what the cues before said. If those earlier cues have no information anymore the tracked values will be empty as well.

    Long story short: if you appended your delete command with the Track/QOnly button (conveniently located directly above Enter) you toggle your consoles mode to the opposite - just for this one command.

    The opposite of Tracking is Cue Only (QOnly). It means "protect the next cue no matter the font color".

    I claim that instead of Delete Cue 17 Enter, Delete Cue 17 QOnly Enter would have done what you actually wanted.

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  • No, recall from doesn't create a "link", it grabs the values.

    I bet you're working in tracking mode. Have a look at the top left corner of your Live tabs. Does it say Tracking?

    When you're sitting in a cue and look at values, note the color of the font. Some of the numbers you see are written in magenta. Those are tracked values. That means that this cue has no hard values there but rather knows that it should keep doing what it was doing before. Think of those values as transparent, or as "dito".

    Stuff that's written in blue and green is called Move Instruction. It's the opposite of a tracked value. Those are actual values written in the cues. All tracked values take their information from a move instruction that happened previously.

    When you delete a cue while in tracking mode and you delete blue and green values, the tracked values have no source anymore. They knew they need to keep doing what the cues before said. If those earlier cues have no information anymore the tracked values will be empty as well.

    Long story short: if you appended your delete command with the Track/QOnly button (conveniently located directly above Enter) you toggle your consoles mode to the opposite - just for this one command.

    The opposite of Tracking is Cue Only (QOnly). It means "protect the next cue no matter the font color".

    I claim that instead of Delete Cue 17 Enter, Delete Cue 17 QOnly Enter would have done what you actually wanted.

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