House of Worship, Triggering Lighting with external software?

Hi all, I can't find this exact scenario in the forums, though I suspect it exists:

I run tech at a House of Worship and would like to setup a variety of "looks" in Nomad (PC, via a Gadget II), be that cues, presets, etc...and I would like to have our slide playback software, Proclaim, trigger these looks throughout the service. The software is capable of sending and receiving MIDI, and I can run Nomad on the same computer (or on another computer right next to it, though I figured I can route the MIDI internally in some manner).

My question is: what method within Nomad (operating as an EOS console rather than an Elements console) would you all recommend for having a single button trigger that could cleanly execute a new look without having to make a strict list in cues? I am thinking if I build something within the Magic sheets, but am not sure how to accomplish a literal single click type of trigger. Perhaps with a list of Macros that each trigger a different cue or preset with timing?

(I know triggering all this via another software might seem irritating, and I'm sure it will be, but the fewer volunteers I have to wrangle the better.)

This scenario is very open, so any ideas that you have would be hugely appreciated.

  • Not completely sure how you want to run this and how much control if any you want the operator to have at the nomads end.

    For example you could have a magic sheet with buttons for your looks and then press a button and the next command from the slide playback makes it go to that look.

    Or you might be saying someone in the slide playback software sets up which look it goes to.

    If you were doing the former then
    1. Record your looks in say preset 1 to 10
    2. Setup 10 buttons on a magic sheet, each button set as command with the command being
    Clear_CommandLine Preset 1 Copy_To Preset 99
    with the 1 being 2,3 .... etc
    3. Record a macro that selects everything and applies preset 99 eg Clear_CommandLine Group 1 Sneak 5 Preset 99

    Then make the slide software trigger that macro
  • Looking at the web site for the slide software, you can send midi notes and set a scene in that software. ie a midi note to send for a scene to the lighting desk.

    So if you wanted to work that way, then instead of doing the magic sheet you would have 10 macros like
    Clear_CommandLine Group 1 Sneak 5 Preset 1
    Clear_CommandLine Group 1 Sneak 5 Preset 2 etc

    Then in the Show Control on Nomads set up the Note On events to trigger each macro
  • You could have the midi note trigger a cue in Nomad. Does this sound like it would help?
  • You can use either cues or presets.

    There's fors and against with each

    With Presets you'd have to record a macro to fire them as show control executes cues or macros.

    With Cues you'd need to watch out for tracking if nomads in the default mode as changing a value for a channel in an earlier cue might change the "look" in the later one as the value tracks forward. (lots of ways of stopping it but not necessarily so obvious on setup)
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