Addresses with proportions

Let's say I need address 99 to never go above 73%. In patch I set the proportion on address 99 to 73. Now let's say someone calls for dimmer (address) 99 to full. In park I bring address 99 to full. (this is after I have set the proportion on address 99 to 73). The address actually goes to full and not the proportion I set it to. Now let's say I assign the address to channel 1, so now address 99 (with it's proportion at 73%) is at channel 1. I can now bring channel 1 to full and the address does what it is supposed to do and goes to 73%. How do I keep the dimmer (address) from actually going to full when it's in park after it has been assigned a proportion?

Terri Batcheller
Board Op
Houston Grand Opera

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Tim Wilson over 16 years ago

Hi Terri,

When I have needed dimmers to be specific about voltages I have sometimes built and applied unique profiles to them. Dimmable fluorescents for instance. I think this may be more flexible than the proportional patch route.

Tim Wilson

American Conservatory Theater

[edited by: Tim Wilson at 12:58 PM (GMT -6) on Fri, Oct 17 2008]
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Tim Wilson over 16 years ago

Hi Terri,

When I have needed dimmers to be specific about voltages I have sometimes built and applied unique profiles to them. Dimmable fluorescents for instance. I think this may be more flexible than the proportional patch route.

Tim Wilson

American Conservatory Theater

[edited by: Tim Wilson at 12:58 PM (GMT -6) on Fri, Oct 17 2008]
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Jay over 16 years ago in reply to Tim Wilson

If its a propotional then you should be able to bring it to full by bringing it up by dimmer. I think of the porportional as from the channel, as so the designer doesn't bring it to full. If I need the dimmer never to be brought up to full I would create a profile and apply it to the dimmer. Or put a limit at the rack.

Just my 2 Cents.

Jay
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rhdgs over 16 years ago in reply to Jay

For what it is worth I would put the limit on the dimmer rack in the above situation. For instance when I need to patch non-dim kino flo's (florescent) or moving lights that are powered from a dimmer I always put the profile on the rack so that no matter what (even if another console is used or the show data where to be cleared) that instrument will not be dammaged by human error. Unless it gets dropped, or run over by a forklift. ;)
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jabadger over 16 years ago in reply to rhdgs

Leaving it as is, is my vote. Scenario being, you programmed a whole show, ld says at the last minute before going to air/tape to limit the output of the fixture down to 75%. The channel should still display that it's at 100 (if it's programmed there) but is limited to the level set. Going directly to the dimmer and bringing it to full should still go to true full.
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usesafesets over 16 years ago in reply to jabadger

I agree with Badger. Two questions that come to my mind in this are what effect limiting has on Highlight and Chan Check. I could see a use for both of those functions over riding a limited channel.
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Tim Wilson over 16 years ago in reply to usesafesets

I think the behavior should stay as it is. Proportion and curve work fine the way they are.

Tim
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