Update with manual cue times/ also Manual crossfades?

Next Wave show at BAM where the visiting Lighting Director needed manual cue times for all his cues in a single cue list with 2 pages of subs that he uses to "enhance" each look on stage.  Imported show file from ASCII.  Changed all times to manual.  Hit GO and left master fader drops down to zero.  He pushes up fader to produce crossfade at whatever timing he wants.  (only the left fader drops down)  He then needs to edit the look on stage and and update it.  When I hit UPDATE (make absolute) the left fader drops down to zero again and I have to push it up again.  This update appears to bring the look on stage back to its levels before the cue crossfade and pushing the fader up runs the crossfade again.  This would be very bad if we were editing looks with an audience.  I did hold the fader in place once to prevent the repeated crossfade, but that is not ideal at all.  

will include show file when I can.

(have not tried substituting RECORD ONLY yet) 

 

Also, what the visiting LD wanted was an XY crossfade function, where both master faders worked separately to control the current cue on stage and the incoming cue to the stage.  He wanted to sometimes hold the current cue on stage while bringing in the next cue.  The EOS faders do not appear to work that way, unless I am missing something.  I did a work around by writing a macro to record current look on stage to a sub and the LD brings up the sub to hold the look. Is this some feature we should add to the EOS? (if it doesn't already exist and I am just missing it)

 

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  • Dan, thanks for sending this along.  We'll look into it.  

    Regarding the XY crossfade.. no, Eos doesn't do this.   That style of playback is derived from analog multi-scene preset functioning and could be done in desks that were based on the that particular playback philosophy.    Since Eos is a move fade desk, I'm not at all sure how this would work...  The second cue that you wanted to "pile on" would have new instructions for everything that was in the first cue.  So, you end up with only the last cue on stage anyway.    In theory, there could be some kluge that HTP'ed intensity values, but.....   Was he wanting to do this all the time?  Or was this just in a couple of instances?

    Interesting.

  • Thanks for the response...

     

    no He did not want to do it all the time.  There was only about 5 or 6 times out of 60 cues that he needed to "hold" the current cue while bringing in the other cue.  My macro to rerecord the same sub worked fine for him.  He explained to me that the show was originally created on some old AVAB based board and that's why its run the way it is.

     Many times at BAM we have to twist and push the lite board as close as we can to whatever the visiting company originally created their show on.  So far, the EOS has been up to the task.

     

    here is the show file for you to look at the update issue with manual cue times... 

    try again ...will send show file to your etcconnect email address..

     

    thanks again

     

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  • Thanks for the response...

     

    no He did not want to do it all the time.  There was only about 5 or 6 times out of 60 cues that he needed to "hold" the current cue while bringing in the other cue.  My macro to rerecord the same sub worked fine for him.  He explained to me that the show was originally created on some old AVAB based board and that's why its run the way it is.

     Many times at BAM we have to twist and push the lite board as close as we can to whatever the visiting company originally created their show on.  So far, the EOS has been up to the task.

     

    here is the show file for you to look at the update issue with manual cue times... 

    try again ...will send show file to your etcconnect email address..

     

    thanks again

     

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