Skypanel C Color Calibration Values VS Gel Picker

The gel picker for the Skypanels seems to be massively off regardless of mode.  Additionally, if the instrument is operated in "calibrated color mode" the gel picker is even further off.  The calibrated mode allows for direct DMX values (XY, HSI or RGBW) that correspond to a "Kodak Pro Photo Color Gamut / ESTA standard E1.54" which allows near perfect source matching to a gel on a 3200k or 5600k source.  Currently I'm using a spreadsheet I've made from a PDF reference chart that Arri has released (Link is a zip of 4 PDFs http://www.arri.com/?eID=registration&file_uid=17292) My spreadsheet takes their 16bit Hi/Lo values and makes them values I can directly input.  The work flow is to search the gel then make a palette with it when it's needed.  The issue of course is being fast enough for my Cinematographer and Gaffer not to pull their hair out or have their big name directors yell at them.  I also believe that my computers should be able to automate this system much more efficiently.

It would be great if there was a general skypanel mode that had these calibrations built into the gel picker or if a color palette list was built that we could import into our own number scheme.  From what I've seen I can't import an ASCII, CSV, spreadsheet or any format that I could automate a conversion from to import myself. Such as importing this entire gel list into CP1001-1999.

  • i did a small experiment. recorded a skypanel (M6) into three color palettes. exported as csv, that's part of what i got.

    this can also be imported...

    START_LEVELS
    TARGET_TYPE,TARGET_TYPE_AS_TEXT,TARGET_LIST_NUMBER,TARGET_ID,TARGET_PART_NUMBER,CHANNEL,PARAMETER_TYPE,PARAMETER_TYPE_AS_TEXT,LEVEL,LEVEL_REFERENCE_TYPE,LEVEL_REFERENCE_TYPE_AS_TEXT,LEVEL_REFERENCE_LIST_NUMBER,LEVEL_REFERENCE_ID,FADE_TIME,DELAY_TIME,MARK_CUE,TRACK_TYPE,EFFECT
    3,Color_Palette,3,1,,1,12,Red,100,,,,,0,0,,,
    3,Color_Palette,3,1,,1,13,Green,0,,,,,0,0,,,
    3,Color_Palette,3,1,,1,14,Blue,0,,,,,0,0,,,
    3,Color_Palette,3,2,,1,12,Red,0,,,,,0,0,,,
    3,Color_Palette,3,2,,1,13,Green,100,,,,,0,0,,,
    3,Color_Palette,3,2,,1,14,Blue,0,,,,,0,0,,,
    3,Color_Palette,3,3,,1,12,Red,0,,,,,0,0,,,
    3,Color_Palette,3,3,,1,13,Green,0,,,,,0,0,,,
    3,Color_Palette,3,3,,1,14,Blue,100,,,,,0,0,,,
    END_LEVELS
  • Thanks Ueli,

    Previously I had just exported the color palettes, not the "levels" category and all the dmx information was omitted. I'll do some tests reimporting modified data and then put together a table translation.
  • I can import the values to a preset Skypanel channel but I don't see how to add labels. There doesn't seem to be a column for "TARGET_ID_AS_TEXT" or something.
  • that would be in the target section:

    START_TARGETS
    TARGET_TYPE,TARGET_TYPE_AS_TEXT,TARGET_LIST_NUMBER,TARGET_ID,TARGET_DCID,PART_NUMBER,LABEL,TIME_DATA,UP_DELAY,DOWN_TIME,DOWN_DELAY,FOCUS_TIME,FOCUS_DELAY,COLOR_TIME,COLOR_DELAY,BEAM_TIME,BEAM_DELAY,DURATION,MARK,BLOCK,ASSERT,ALL_FADE,PREHEAT,FOLLOW,LINK,LOOP,CURVE,RATE,EXTERNAL_LINKS,EFFECTS,MODE,CUE_NOTES,SCENE_TEXT,SCENE_END
    3,Color_Palette,3,1,B3A304E8-9F3D-4456-B361-CD37F024C0E3,,red,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    3,Color_Palette,3,2,A3FF65FF-435B-4B37-B38F-D890DEC2F36C,,green,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    3,Color_Palette,3,3,C3BB1103-426D-47F2-9704-F20A2BA1C015,,blue,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    END_TARGETS

    in my example the labels are "red", "green", "blue"
  • Thanks again,

    Slow connecting the dots this morning but that's it. Now the fun of getting it to all convert without manually doing it.
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