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    Jesse Forney
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Using cues as an absolute effect?

I ran a small rap concert a few weeks ago with very limited lighting options. I really only had 6 LED pars on the floor and 4 in the ceiling. I ended up making a few cuelists sometimes with effects sometimes without and set them up like this

cue 1 time 5 hang 0

cue 2 time 5 hang 0

loop cue 1

cue 3 time 5 hang 0

cue 4 time 5 hang 0

loop cue 3

then I made a bunch of macros to go to whatever cue I wanted and I set it all up in direct selects. I did all this because I was having trouble with absolute and step effects doing everything I wanted them to. It just seems like making a cue list is a lot simpler than programming effects to me. This worked perfect for me because I only had pars that were all the same light to work with, but if I was using a larger rig with multiple fixtures and I wanted independent "Effects" for them then it wouldn't work

Here's my question, if I could run multiple cuelists independently then I could use this system for anything 

i.e.

Pars cuelist 11/#

Movers cuelist 12/#

Wash cuelist 13/#

Then I could build a bunch of macros to go to the specific cue for that cuelist and a cue to go to the out cue for each list which would work as a sort of kill all for the lights in that cue. Keeping updated between rigs wouldn't be hard either as long as it is all programmed through palettes. I could just update the pallets and have all my "Effects" working.

So is this possible and if so how? Is it literally just "Go cue 12/4" and "Go cue 13/6" Would that work without issue like I'm hoping? Unfortunately I can't test it as the job I usually work at has the grandma2

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  • Three bits of answer

    1. If you want to use cue lists then probably you need a seperate one for each effect rather than having multiple start points.

    The just assign the cue list to a fader (either a real one or just a virtual one).  If its a real one then you can just run the "effect" by using the fader.  Or you can have a macro like Go_CueList 101 Fader 41  and then maybe put that macro on a magic sheet.

    I do this for complex moving head moves,  eg where I want them to go through a sequence and then stop until I hit the button to coninue in to the next part of the move.

    2. However using absolute effect is very like using a cue list (other than you can vary what it applies to when running it).   If you create an absolute effect just put a focus pallet or colour pallet into each step and set the timings and really that is all there is to it.  (If you need a focus and colour change in the same step then set the step time to 0 for the first one (its pretty much the equivalent of the follow in a cue list).

    3. For testing you can download etc nomads for free for both mac and windows and then mess around with it at home,  and the show file is directly compatible with the eos console. 

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  • Three bits of answer

    1. If you want to use cue lists then probably you need a seperate one for each effect rather than having multiple start points.

    The just assign the cue list to a fader (either a real one or just a virtual one).  If its a real one then you can just run the "effect" by using the fader.  Or you can have a macro like Go_CueList 101 Fader 41  and then maybe put that macro on a magic sheet.

    I do this for complex moving head moves,  eg where I want them to go through a sequence and then stop until I hit the button to coninue in to the next part of the move.

    2. However using absolute effect is very like using a cue list (other than you can vary what it applies to when running it).   If you create an absolute effect just put a focus pallet or colour pallet into each step and set the timings and really that is all there is to it.  (If you need a focus and colour change in the same step then set the step time to 0 for the first one (its pretty much the equivalent of the follow in a cue list).

    3. For testing you can download etc nomads for free for both mac and windows and then mess around with it at home,  and the show file is directly compatible with the eos console. 

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