ION&VL500 \ examining palettes

I can answer the color mixing question about the VL500 - the VL500 uses the Dichro-Tune color mixing system where the color flags turn from parallel to the beam of light (open white) to perpendicular when that color parameter is at full. This means that the angle at which the beam of light hits the filter changes as you bring in the color. Dichroics change color as you turn them in this way. Other fixtures use claw flags or wheels with gradations of the pure color, allowing more white light to mix with the pure color at low levels, and becoming more saturated at high levels. The color itself, though doesn't change.

It was always a bit strange using the Blue filter at a low level in order to get pink out of a VL5, but that's how the physics worked in that fixture. The VL500 is based on the same type of color system.

I hope that helps...

Thanks -

Sarah

On Ion, at the moment, the only way to know what lights are stored in a palette other than using the Group button is to look at it in blind.   On Eos, you can use the query function (which is actually more keystrokes than just using the group button .... )....

hope that helps.

a

To expand on what Sarah posted, it is a "feature" of the VL500 which is a legacy from the VL5.

I am working with some at one of the theatres I work at, and I hate them.  I especially love how the manual talks about the blue wheel being a continual gradient from 0 to 255.  If you count magenta as part of the blue gradient.  It is especially fun to tell a designer, "No the fixture won't do a pale blue, but I can do that color with the SeaChangers."  Grrrr!

As I understand it, the "pastel" range for the VL500 has a more uniformed blue dichroic, but then you lose the saturation at the full end.

Oh, and when we called V*L tech support to ask about it, they didn't know what we were talking about, and finally we got an answer from them three WEEKS later.

Now, if they would just put a SeaChanger in a Revolution, we'd have a fixture that would blow the V*L away.

Take care,

John

I know it doesn't currently, but shouldn't "Flexi+Active" in Blind Palette show only what's recorded into the current display?

On an unrelated Blind Palette note...we should be able to use BLOCK while looking at a Palette in Blind.  If I want to assure all attributes have a value, and currently only some do because either RECORD ONLY or UPDATE was used, I think Channel 1 BLOCK ENTER should accomplish this.

Or Perhaps a [Make Absolute]?

As a workaround for now... could you in live: place the chan in the pallet.  Make Manual, then update?

In Live isn't a problem, because you can (even without putting it in a palette) Make Manual.  But there are times when it isn't as convenient.  Let's say, for instance, using the color picker in blind, with a fixture that has additional color wheels that need to be zeroed.  Currently, the workaround would be to Home the fixtures, which does insert values, before using the color picker (or gel equivalent).  But we do need a way to get there more quickly.

V

Maybe a macro that you can use after channel selection.  Perhaps the macro could contain [{colour} home enter display colourPicker].  Just tried on OLE and seems to work rather quickly...

Cheers. BFJ