Help with Displays

 

While there is a lot about Eos and Ion that seems familiar to people, one of the biggest adjustments seems to be using the displays... how to navigate them, how to change their formats, what the symbols mean.    It all comes at you pretty fast during training.  So, the attached document is an attempt to help clarify these things.  The document is written with an eye toward Eos.  Almost all of the ideas are the same for you Ion folks!  At the end, you'll find a brief description of how Ion differs from Eos.

Anyway, hope this is helpful.

There will be further documents in this vein on different topics.

Happy programming.

a

NOTE FROM 7/7/09 - PLEASE SEE A REVISED DOCUMENT AT THE END OF THIS THREAD.

 



[edited by: Anne Valentino at 10:23 AM (GMT -6) on Fri, Apr 30 2010]
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  • On the subject of displays I have a question. 

     

    On the ION, we just got a new one a couplle weeks ago.  I have a cue with a 7 minute follow on it and we cannot see where in that follow the cue is.  there is nothing in the manual to help and it is getting frustrating since every console i have ever used puts it in the playback status of the cue.  Currently it says there is a 7:00 follow, but there is no countdown.  How do I change that so I can tell my stage manager where I am in things.  Also how do I fan times?  A reasonable syntax would be chanells 1-20 [time] 5-10 (with an option of /2 , to denote an offset between heads.

    'D'

  • The follow time counts down in the playback status display.  If you look at the active/pending cue box (below the cue list).  You'll see a follow/hang counter (when needed), a percentage of cue completion and a "remaining time" counter.  

    Fan is included in an upcoming release.

    Hope that helps.

    a

     

  • Hiya Anne,

    I think i know where my confusion comes in... When working with cuelist 1 the follows show up fun.  My trouble comes in when I use cuelist 2 which I have mapped to a sub fader.  Even when I load the cuelist over into the cue status display the follows do not show in the playback status area.  I can see cuelist 2, but down where it shows the cue completeion stuff it still shows the in from cuelist 1.  Since the durations show up when they are running up in the playback status area, should the follow just count down in the same place?   I see only:

    Master:          List 1 (Small white letter with nothing underneath)                    100%  0.0    199 (which is a cue from list 1)  How do I load my other cuelists here? 

     

    In the window above, 'the playback window' my 2nd cuelist shows up and I can tell at least what cue I am in, but the playback line (CIA I think, not wholey sure of what all the CIA entails) reflects cuelist 1.  Or I would think that where it says list 1 in the section I printed above, I would be able to select another cuelist.

    For the record we have the 1.7 release software loaded.

     

    Sorry if what I am saying is confusing, wish I could take some screen shots to send.

     

  • Regardless of what cue list is currently being displayed by the PSD, the information for the Master fader doesn't change.  It is always going to be displayed in the section of the PSD just below the cue list and above the F1-F10 displays.  When you are running cues on F1-F10, the follow time counts down in area of the display related to F1-F10.    

    To load different cue lists to any of your faders, put the cue that you want to start with on the command line (Cue 2/1 Enter) and press the load button for the desired location.  You'll know see that cue show up in pending and the next press of go will run it.

    Does that help?

    a

     

  • It does to a point,  I guess I should specify that I am on an Ion and I have the cue list loaded onto Fader/Sub 31. (We have a 2x20 wing.) I needed a 2nd cue list and with how my subs are set up 31 was the first available fader.  But accoring to what you are telling me, if I can load that cue list on 1 of 1thru 10 I will see the follow times correctly then?  Sorry just trying to make sure, especially considering I am not in front of the console until way later today.

     

    'D'

     

    PS

    thank you for taking the time to work with a newb like me.  Our factory training isn't until the 17th, and I have a bunch of shows rolling through the venue before then so trying to get myself up to speed before then.

  • That will work.  To release the submaster from the physical fader, press [Fader Controls].  The softkeys will then repaint and you'll see a release key.  Hold that key down, and press both buttons on the sub you want to remove.

    That unmaps that fader.  You can then select the first cue of your second list, press enter.  With that on the command line, hold down both buttons (that is the equivalent of the load button on the master fader), and your cue list will load to that fader.

    Hope that helps!!

    a

     

  • "

    Regardless of what cue list is currently being displayed by the PSD, the information for the Master fader doesn't change.  It is always going to be displayed in the section of the PSD just below the cue list and above the F1-F10 displays.  When you are running cues on F1-F10, the follow time counts down in area of the display related to F1-F10.    

    To load different cue lists to any of your faders, put the cue that you want to start with on the command line (Cue 2/1 Enter) and press the load button for the desired location.  You'll know see that cue show up in pending and the next press of go will run it.

    Does that help?

    a "

     

    Sadly this does not help me, with my issue.  At this point the show has moved on and I am back to simpler times, but it still remains I need to be able to see the follow times on ANY of my faders beside the master fader.  I am on an ION not an EOS so I do not have a F1-F10 display  unless its buried somewhere and I can view those as virtual playbacks somewhere. (That would totally help me out).  IS this a possibility?  The other answer would be to show information about active cues IN the cue list we are viewing on the ion.  Itd be really cool if I could  hit 6/ ENTER and see what is actively happening even if I have it mapped to sub 37.  As it stands right now you CAN see that a cue is running, but the follow information isn't displayed, and this is where my frustration lays.   Maybe another option is to also show follow information in the LCD display on the submaster fader wing.    Anyhow, thanks for listening to me blather, I just feel like I am missing a tidbit of information on the ION that would totally solve a number of problems for me.

     

    Regards,

    'D'

     


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  • "

    Regardless of what cue list is currently being displayed by the PSD, the information for the Master fader doesn't change.  It is always going to be displayed in the section of the PSD just below the cue list and above the F1-F10 displays.  When you are running cues on F1-F10, the follow time counts down in area of the display related to F1-F10.    

    To load different cue lists to any of your faders, put the cue that you want to start with on the command line (Cue 2/1 Enter) and press the load button for the desired location.  You'll know see that cue show up in pending and the next press of go will run it.

    Does that help?

    a "

     

    Sadly this does not help me, with my issue.  At this point the show has moved on and I am back to simpler times, but it still remains I need to be able to see the follow times on ANY of my faders beside the master fader.  I am on an ION not an EOS so I do not have a F1-F10 display  unless its buried somewhere and I can view those as virtual playbacks somewhere. (That would totally help me out).  IS this a possibility?  The other answer would be to show information about active cues IN the cue list we are viewing on the ion.  Itd be really cool if I could  hit 6/ ENTER and see what is actively happening even if I have it mapped to sub 37.  As it stands right now you CAN see that a cue is running, but the follow information isn't displayed, and this is where my frustration lays.   Maybe another option is to also show follow information in the LCD display on the submaster fader wing.    Anyhow, thanks for listening to me blather, I just feel like I am missing a tidbit of information on the ION that would totally solve a number of problems for me.

     

    Regards,

    'D'

     


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