How do I create submasters for features built into moving fixtures?

Hey All,

I am new to the moving light world and am trying to teach myself how to successfully busk and have run into a few walls when it comes to programming.  I've been in the incandescent world for over 15 years and I feel like a total idiot to be struggling with some of the more basic functionality of programming when it comes to movers.  

The main issue that I'm trying to solve is figuring out how I can have a submaster that controls built-in functions on fixtures, such as a prism rotator.  I have built a ton of macros for this purpose, and while that is fine in certain scenarios, it would be really awesome to be able to configure a fader that controls the speed of the rotation.  I have recorded a bunch of effect subs that have a master fader, a rate fader, and a size fader, but I'm wondering if there is a way to record a sub that controls the speed of rotation from -110 to +100.  There are other features in the fixtures that I'd love to be able to control the same way, and I'm hoping that cracking the prism rotation will make it possible to do so for other features.  The units I'm working with are the Chauvet Maverick MK II Profiles.  Any and all help is greatly appreciated!!

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  • Couple things which might help--

    The current Eos personality for the chauvet maverick mk II profile appears to contain an error for the Beam FX Index/Speed parameter--it's set for snap, which prevents it from ramping.  Go to patch, click the softkey for Fixtures, select the profile, and clear the checkmark in the Snap column next to Beam FX Index/Speed, then save the changes.

    There are also a few ways to get a slider to ramp across a full range from negative to positive values, although they're somewhat kludgy.  

    If your sub is set for restore to background (which is the default), the bottom of the slider will be whatever that background value is.  So to get the behavior you want, you could record the rotation speed at full reverse in a cue or in a second sub, then record your working sub with the rotation speed (and nothing else) at full forward.  The slider of the working sub should now give you the full range.

    Another fancier way would be to record a special cue list just for this purpose--the first cue would contain only the desired channels and parameters set for full reverse speed, the second cue recorded at full forward speed.  Set the cue list properties as a manual master with back from 1st and go from last set for wrap.  You can also set that cue list's parameter and channel filters to make sure you don't record anything else into it accidentally (or more precisely, if you do it won't play back).  Assign the cue list to a fader and voila.

    A third way would be to re-assign the user values in the fixture profile so they aren't negative.  Then you can have 0 be full reverse speed with everything ranging up from there, which would let you use a sub without the requirement for having a background state.

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  • Couple things which might help--

    The current Eos personality for the chauvet maverick mk II profile appears to contain an error for the Beam FX Index/Speed parameter--it's set for snap, which prevents it from ramping.  Go to patch, click the softkey for Fixtures, select the profile, and clear the checkmark in the Snap column next to Beam FX Index/Speed, then save the changes.

    There are also a few ways to get a slider to ramp across a full range from negative to positive values, although they're somewhat kludgy.  

    If your sub is set for restore to background (which is the default), the bottom of the slider will be whatever that background value is.  So to get the behavior you want, you could record the rotation speed at full reverse in a cue or in a second sub, then record your working sub with the rotation speed (and nothing else) at full forward.  The slider of the working sub should now give you the full range.

    Another fancier way would be to record a special cue list just for this purpose--the first cue would contain only the desired channels and parameters set for full reverse speed, the second cue recorded at full forward speed.  Set the cue list properties as a manual master with back from 1st and go from last set for wrap.  You can also set that cue list's parameter and channel filters to make sure you don't record anything else into it accidentally (or more precisely, if you do it won't play back).  Assign the cue list to a fader and voila.

    A third way would be to re-assign the user values in the fixture profile so they aren't negative.  Then you can have 0 be full reverse speed with everything ranging up from there, which would let you use a sub without the requirement for having a background state.

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