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Update Sub:Dump Live Output

So today I had several subs up on stage. Some were run up on the physical fader, and some were up via the bump key with a hold and an up/down time. Much to my embaracment when I, in blind, updated one of the subs that was up on the bump key; the outputs that that sub was contributing were dumped out of the live look as soon as i pressed enter. AHHHHH! My face light all went out. I was expecting to have to sneek the sub in live to have the blind effect take effect in live. Or to have to run the physical handle. I was not expecting that the live output to be compleatly dumped.

Is this normal? Can it be fixed?

  • Ben, this is absolutely deliberate behavior.  Tying the sub buffer to live output is a fundamental requirement in the television market.   Those users are highly dependent on submasters, and they use the sub buffer as a way to isolate their view,  making fast changes, with no need to record/update and then home/restore the sub.

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  • in reply to Anne Valentino

    I undersant that. I am just confused as to why all the channels in that sub were taken to a out state in live, as apposed to their new values. I would exect that the chanels in the sub would be taken to their new values, or to have to be snuck to the new values, or that the handle would have to be run; for the new values to take effect. But when all my frount light went to an out state I was a little shocked. I guess I am also confused by the bifferent behavior between a sub that is up on the physical handle and a sub that is up via a bump/hold or on the command line.

  • in reply to usesafesets

    Ah, just stepped through all of the various behavior.... and you have found a bug.  It seems that if you make the change in blind to a submaster that was triggered from a timed bump, it DOES dump the sub contents.  It shouldn't do that.  We will get that fixed in 1.5. 

    If you make the change to a sub manually triggered, or even to a submaster that was triggered from the command line (with or without the submaster actually loaded to a physical fader), the values are maintained.

    Sorry about that.  On it.

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  • in reply to Anne Valentino

    Thanks Anne, and everyone else who is on this project, for continuing to make it better.

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