Sneaky Subs

Called in to put some lights on a cyc for a presentation tomorrow night and thought to spice things up with a couple of MLs with cartwheel gobos. So, set up MLs pointing to the cyc and saved in a sub using 115+116 Record Only Sub 34 whatever. Turned them off and then tested the sub. Great!

Decided to go a bit more adventurous and pulled up the MLs and this time put effect 906 on them to dance them around the cyc. Looked great and again recorded only to a new sub (35).

Feeling good to go I went back to test things and bought up the (static display) sub (34). Nothing! What? Having had subs gang up on me before I was careful to delete the sub before setting up again. Sure enough up came my cartwheels.  But did you guess?. Pulling up the dancing MLs on sub 35 - Nothing! Ouch, there goes lunch. So I went to cue out, made really sure I actually pointed the ML channels in the command line and used Record Only and so on. Eventually hit on the right sequence and now both behave as should. But went through so many iterations can't remember how I got it to work.  I remember a year back running a Strand NEO and I got something similar, so I am thinking there is some logic and/or method that I am missing.

  • 115+116 Record Only Sub 34

    Record Only *only* stores manual values. So if you turned your channels 115 & 116 on via a submaster (and since sub 34 was contributing intensity values I think this is what happened) then they would have not have stored those values.

    I'd suggest watching this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbLIjNjn85Y to make sure you really get the difference between record and record only. It's a very powerful tool, but you need to make sure you know the difference. An easy way to think about is record stores everything, while record only stores only manual (red) values.

  • Yep - I 've been getting a lot of help with the record and record only thing and I can see that if I pull up a sub and try to save that using Record Only it won't save, because it isn't a manual (red) change.

    But when I started off I made these completely independently. But as said went through so many iterations lost my track (pun?) - so Sunday when that prize ceremony is over I'll go in and take another look to come up with a better defined question. Thanks Scott. 

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