Ummmmm... subs don't really work that way. They store the end state that you want the lights to be at when the sub is at full. Maybe if you could explain the effect you are trying to achieve, we (including all of our users here), could help figure out a way to achieve that.
It sounds like you want the faders to work like they do on a pearl or something, where non-intensity paramiters snap to their recorded values as soon as you move the fader, at which point the fader controls just the fade up of the intensity. at the moment I'm not sure you can do this, but if you put your look into a cue, put that cue on a fader and make the fader an intensity master, you can use the [go] button to trigger the cue which moves the fixutres into their positions and then you can use the fader to fade up intensities.
If Dan's theory on what OP is trying to accomplish is right, then couldn't you accomplish the same thing Dan suggested by just setting the sub to Intensity Master?
You could, but on a sub -- but you need to press the bump button first to "mark" the lights. If you bring the handle up, and the lights haven't moved into position via the mark button, they will fade in progress with the fader motion.
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[edited by: Anne Valentino at 2:44 PM (GMT -6) on Mon, Jun 1 2009]
I gave this a try and it works which is great but I have a question about it. if the fixutres in question are at a zero value for all paramiters, moving the fader up just slightly does cause the non-intensity paramiters to snap to their recorded values, and then the fader alows you to fade up the intensity. however if I then bring up another LTP submaster with the same fixture recorded into different values, it doesn't move the non-intensity paramiters at all unless I hit the bump button. this occurs wheather the first submaster is still up or not. why is this? and what is the advantage of having to hit the bump button first to mark the lights rather than taking the mark off the first fader movement? although the bump button marking is a nice feature so you can mark your lights without accidentally fading the intensity up, it seems like an unecessary step if you are intending to fade them up at the same time.
Yes, absolutely! I myself not being well versed as a Hog user but quite proficient with the Avo Pearl would love my submasters to behave this way. If I have 10 subs that hold all of my movers only. 5 subs are position A each with a different color. 5 subs are position B each with a different color. I want to "busk" a live show from the subs. When I press the bump, everything (on that sub) goes at once. I can use the bumps to bounce between moving light looks just like I can now with conventionals. If I want to "fade" the look up, [ltp actions at 5%] I do NOT want to press another button. If I record a sub with only gobo information, I can overlay that sub to any other. Unless the next sub I choose has different gobo data.
I know the EOS / ION is not engineered as a rock n roll desk. I needed a theatre desk. I bought a theatre desk. It's just that sometimes I need my smart theatre desk to work like a rock n roll desk.
