using macros to turn on subs with time

have fader 3 (sub 3) as effect - fader 4 is effect rate for sub 3 - am trying to use macro to run effect rate fader to full using time / have tried in macro - fader(which isn't responding to time) sub 3 and sub 4 / eg: macro -sub 5 @ 100 time 6.0 enter works great / what do I write in macro for sub 3(fader 3) to bring up FX rate sub(fader 4) to full using time?

Many thanks  Andu

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